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I have been in the freshwater hobby for over 20 years. I'm debating a salt water setup. I've always been fasinated by the invertabretes. At first I would like to do a live rock set up with just a few fish like gobies. I want more shrimp, crabs, starfish etc. I may add some coral and anenomes at a later time. I have looked at the Drs. Foster and Smith catalog, so I have an idea about price, and I'm trying to figure out what I will need. I have a 29,or a 55 that I could set up. What are the recomendations for lighting, filteration etc. Is there a preference between a canister and a wet dry sump? The Nano type tanks look interesting. Are they good for a salt water beginer? The price of stocking the Nano is much cheaper. I Will read some books before I purchase anything. I just wanted some intial guidance.
 
Hi whip
the first thing you must take into account is that freshwater fish keeping is alot easier then marine you must use a R/O unit for the water or buy it from ur lfs, First things is bigger is better the smaller the tank the harder it is nano reef tanks are for expert and professional users only reason?.

The less water volume you have the quicker the toxins mount up so bigger is better and also go for every thing over sized get a filter that does double the amount the filter makers recommend and a protain skimmer that does 4x times lights well T5 lighting is minium for marine the better your setup the easier the fish keeping.

As for salts use the best stuff you lfs sells and dont skimp on treatments there alot cheaper then having a tank crash and having to restock your tank.

ive got 53 marine tanks to look after in our shop which we have never had a crash but i have a 5 gal nano reef tank and i went on holiday for a week and left a friend to look after it who also has marine.. needless to say 4 days in he lost the hole tank stock.. si even thou they look cool there not cheaper in the long run, more water - less work - easier to keep alive.
 
HI....I entered the marine scene after about six months FW experience and outside of a few basic skills, they are two very different systems. The really big issue for you here is mini-reef vs nano-reef, again in some ways very similar and in others drastically different.

A nano-reef is not going to let you keep many of the things you mentioned, including anemones and sea stars. Those animals require large tanks which have matured. The anemone in particular requires high lighting and expert care. Nano reefs are small tanks and don't leave a lot of room for error. While a mini-reef may reach a 'cruising speed', a nano usually requires 5-10 minutes of some kind of work every day.

Although the apparent initial outlay of money for a nano tank looks very affordable, the upgrades necessary for 'self contained' systems can far exceed the initial cost. Also, the cost in losses of livestock in a nano tank can really pad the bill. The initial costs of setting up a 55 may be more but a nano can catch up very quickly.

Filtration on both tanks is basically your live rock, live sand and powerheads for circulation. Canister filters are generally not well liked as the amount of detritus they collect can cause nutrient/nitrate problems.

Overall, whether you choose a nano reef or mini-reef, the key to success is to spend a period of time doing reading and research. Decide on a system and, perhaps, run your initial setup plans by some people here for advice and guidance. Both systems will have their difficult moments. A nano reef will place stocking restrictions on you and will require you to develop superb water husbandry techniques. A larger system will start out with more plumbing, equipment and initial live rock investment. Good luck and let us know what you decide. SH
 
Is the 29 gallon tank still considered a mini? SH said that the LR is the main filter. Are you running anything else?
 
29 gallons is considered a nano reef. I have NO filter on my tank per se. My tank has three chambers in the back (running a nano cube):
Chamber 1: Stock pump, ChemiPure, Purigen, SeaGel, Algone
Chamber 2: Set up as a refugium LR rubble, chaeto, submersible fuge light, temp and pH probes
Chamber 3: Maxijet 1200, heater

No filter per se. Biologic filtration is LR. Chemical filtration is by filter media. Mechanical.....water changes. SH
 

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