Just Sayin Hello :)

theshadowinc · Jan 1, 2009

Just dropping by and saying hi, reading alot of info on the site that is pretty helpful,

My setup is in my signature feel free to leave your comments and questions. I have been in the hobby for a very long time active. Currently now i am 27 years old and started with the hobby when i was 12 and how this hobby has changed over the years. I have had a few planted aquariums starting from 30g to a 55g currently in my living room as a show peice. I will post pics later if I can find my Camera. I currently breed Angle fish, and looking to get more into breeding Dwarf Gouramis. I have past experence in Betta Breeding and planted Aqauriums and out of it all i enjoy planted part the best

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I have 2 Albino Anglefish that i have raised from an inch big, I have raised them with guppys and other tank mats such as albino corys and albino bristle nose, Red Tail shard and ghost shrimp they decided to eat when they got bigger. I find that they get along with many types a fish with no issues. The issue i tend to run into is when they become in heat for breeding. They have breed in the main tank a few times and when they do they seem to get very very violent. Not only do they become violent with tank mates but they also become extremly violent towards each other. Wondering if this is normal during there breeding sessions and if anyone else has run across something simular. They where a perfect pair when i got them from babies now the male seems to be the dominator and the female tends to get some damage to fins and is a pure white. The fighting happens before the eggs get laid. When this period is over they tend to be okay with other fish mates. Is this typical behavour they are doing, it just seems odd that the more they mate is seems like they get more violent towards ones in the tank and themselves. ~ At least the good part is its becoming easier for me to know when they are getting ready to breed to I can seperate them from the community tank ~
I have also notice that the female is smaller than the male and I am guessing that they are fully grown the male is about 9-10 " and the female about 8-9" is this normal for full grown angle fish.

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Tolak · Jan 1, 2009

Hello, welcome to TFF! :good:

Angel temperament ranges from very docile to brutally aggressive. Some pairs will chase & nip a bit when pairing, and be very laid back after that, defending a small territory in a community tank when actively spawning. Others will shred each other when pairing, and only get along when spawning. Most pairs are somewhere in the middle. Some pairs do seem to get along fine for quite a while, then one or the other snaps, and aggression takes off. Angel pairs have been known to fight to the death, out of the blue, for no apparent reason. Whoever named them angels was way off base!

I try to breed for temperament among all the other criteria, nobody wants to buy a fish that grows up to be the tank bully. I've found that it usually is the male that is more aggressive, often beating on the female. I've sold several breeding pairs at auctions, marking them "Breeding pair, wife beater". I've found that blacks seem to have more aggression issues than other phenotypes.

Females are often smaller than males, this is due to the energy needed for egg production. It get diverted towards that rather than growth. This size difference, aggression level, and general gut instinct is what can be used to guessing males & females in a tank of potential breeders, and can often get an observant aquarist about 80% accuracy at sexing.

Colin_T · Jan 1, 2009

Howdee & Welcome

james morrisontoxic2 · Jan 1, 2009

hi and welcome to the forum

cowbla1 · Jan 1, 2009

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theshadowinc · Jan 1, 2009

Tolak said:
Hello, welcome to TFF!

Angel temperament ranges from very docile to brutally aggressive. Some pairs will chase & nip a bit when pairing, and be very laid back after that, defending a small territory in a community tank when actively spawning. Others will shred each other when pairing, and only get along when spawning. Most pairs are somewhere in the middle. Some pairs do seem to get along fine for quite a while, then one or the other snaps, and aggression takes off. Angel pairs have been known to fight to the death, out of the blue, for no apparent reason. Whoever named them angels was way off base!

Last night before i went to bed i seperated the dwarf gouramis from them. Today i woke up and there behavour was funny no more nipping or tank aggression. Fed them some brine shrimp and the next thing i notice is that they start laying eggs on my sword plant >< well this time around seems to look like about 300 eggs give or take and 5 that are not fertile. Guessing I should cut the leaf later and put them in the 20gal breeder i have and leave the parents seperated from the new born, first time i have ever tried to save there eggs in a community layin setting ><. Looks like i was behind time in removing them and putting them in the breeder ><.
P.S. Time to get the BBS going :shout: