Is My Ram Dying?

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3 weeks ago i bought a pair of blue rams and they have been getting along really well in the tank. Today, one of the rams seems intent just sittingon it sbelly upright (not slopped like other fish do when they die) and not moving much if not at all. Some of the colour has been lost aswell yet the black on the fish has become more vibrant. All the other fish in the tank seem perfectly fine. Can anyone help me on this situation?

Thanks
 
i've just seen him swim and he is swimming with his head points upwards at about a 45 degree angle and ive just fed bloodworms and he hasn;t gone towards them even when i shot them out of my turkey baster right next to him...
 
They need acidic water because that is what they have in their natural habitat. Like Angelfish they are South American Cichlids, and need acidic water to survive.

what is your Ph?
 
ph-6.7
ammonia-0
nitrite-0
nitrate-50

i cant find him at the moment and its not a large tank! If i find him, should i wait for it to die or should i euthanize it? I'm going away for a few days tomorrow and i dont think i can rely on my family to find him if he is dead and take him out- that would mean a tank crash???

Thanks

Will
 
well your readings are fine and the water is slightly on the acidic side which is good. When you find him, I personally would put him in a QT, rather than being eaten by tankmates should he die.
Blue rams can be difficult fish to keep at the best of times. are there any tankmates? or are the rams on their own?
 
the rams have tankmates:
4 corys
an albino shark
a platy
8 cardinal tetras
5 rummynosed tetras
5 harlequins
1 other ram

he has started swimming to the top of the tank at the bak- lethargic looking. I can't set up a QT as i dont have any spare filters which would mean he would die in a worse way than now due to no bacteria being present.

Ill look tomorrow but i expect him to die. His colour has not totally gone except some blue and dark black lines
 
Being pale can lethagic can be signs of a bacterial infection.
Check there no red streaking in the fins.
Does the fish look bloated.
Is the fish tail weighing him down in the water.
 
Being pale can lethagic can be signs of a bacterial infection.
Check there no red streaking in the fins.
Does the fish look bloated.
Is the fish tail weighing him down in the water.

There are no red streakings on the fins except the orangey fins rams have as their bottom fins.
The fish doesnt look bloated at all, he loos just like my other ram and my other ram is swimming happily around the tank
when the fish swims, it looks like the tail is weighing him down, it hardly swims at all, just hovers and gradually swims in one direction. Currently he is laying on the sand- not on its side, on its belly which seems wierd to me?

The only thing ive done differently is i did a 50% water change on wednesday night and i usually do 25% changes
 
When the tail look like it weighing him down its swim bladder.
I would issolate the fish to a container at the top of the tank if its struggling to swim.
All you can do is try a bacterial med but you need aeration in the container if you add the med.


Taken from the above link.
The third type of infection produced by Aeromonas is by no means the least. This form is often the most virulent (potent) and can be rapidly fatal. This insidious form does not produce any noticeable external ulcers. The most notable feature is a behavioral change in which the infected fish generally become listless and lethargic. Some fish may lose color or appear darker. The fish do not feed, frequently seem off balance and may sink to the bottom laying on their sides. The course of the disease is rapid, and by the time the behavioral changes are noticed, the entire population of a tank may succumb, sometimes in a day or so. This is an internal infection, with the bacteria being found in the kidneys and blood of these fish. The bacteria produce potent toxins that account for the severity of the disease.
 

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