Is it or is it not?

[Duncan]

I noticed last night as I was switching off my tank lights, that my Neons have (what looks like to me) nipped fins - I am thinking fin rot, but I've also been observing fin nipping by the neons - so not quite sure. There are some fraying of the fins, I haven't seen any redness to the fins (but that could because I'm slightly colour blind). There is one Neon that has definately a bite chunk out of its tail fin (its like if you got a round pastry cutter and cut it out of the tail fin)

I have noticed one white spot on my Gouramie (my wife loves him) and also I can see an almost white speck on one of the Black Widow Tetra's tail fins. I'm thinking of metholene blue for treating the whitespot.

Would it be safe for me to treat for suspect Fin Rot whilst treating the white spot - I was going to treat the whole tank. I do know that the metholene blue can stain the silcone and damage the plants, anyone know of a plant safe whitespot treatment, if not I can always replace the plants.

Duncan

 

[adeyc]

K then hear we go. If the white spot looks like a grain of salt it's Ich (Ichthyophthiriasis) White spot to you and me. There are available quite a few treatments. Maracide by mardel labs is one.


Could it be the gourami attacking the tetras' as they can be a bit grumpy and attack other fish at times (I know i've one thats a bugger.but the angelfish keeps him in check).

If you're going to use methylene blue It's best to remove all plants out the tank and if you have any active carbon in the filtration system take that out to. The ideal thing is to have a hospital tank at hand . just transfer the fish to be treated to it and away you go.

I'd say provided you've no fish with a skin rather than scales(eg Clown loaches, sharks) treat with Maracyn and Maracyn2.


Have a read of this Ich and this finrot
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Fishhealth

 

[Macquatic]

I don't think you should use methylene blue as it will knock out your biological filter. Use a good brand of medication from your lfs. Mac.

 

[Duncan]

don't you just hate it when you ask someone in the lfs about using the medicine and when you get home you can't use both together

I went out and bought, anti white spot and an anti fungus & finrot remedies. What I'll do is treat the white spot 1st, and wait and see how the fins are doing.

I'm doing a water change today anyway as my nitrites are at 5, then I'll do my white spot treatment. The local waterboard are still mucking about with laying a new pipeline don't know if that helps.

I'm glad that the medicines that I've got are harmful to fish, filters and plants, I've decided against the methyline blue.

Duncan

Duncan

 

[adeyc]

right when doing a water change leave it in a bucket for at least 48 hours to be safe(unless you can run air through the water) and do a test before you put it in the tank. The water board will have upped the level of chems in the water supply to kill of anything harmeful to us humans.ok if the didn't we'd get just sick and have the runs but as they do it'll be fatal to the fish.

What other chems have you got apart from the anti white spot and an anti fungus & finrot stuff and the Methelyne blue?
(include tapsafe, etc you put in the water, if possible manufacturers)

 

[Duncan]

the only chemicals I've got are:

Anti-white Spot
Anti Fungus & Finrot
Dechlorinator & Water conditioner

I'm tending to buy as when I need it at the moment, slowly build up a collection. The meyhyline blue I used 20 years ago, I have got any of that at the moment - not sure if I should get some or not.

I'm gonna be making up an internet order before long so might get some chemicals as a safe guard.

Duncan

 

[Rose]

good meds to have in the fish meds box are Maracyn and Maracyn 2, Rid Ick+ and some AmQuel. If used cautiously you can use both the M and M2 with the Rid Ick.

The nipped fins you have are from the neons. they establish pecking orders and they fight to keep their positions. that's why you have the nipped fins. Rose

 

[adeyc]

Cheers again Rose just what I was going to say.

 

[Duncan]

Thanks Rose & adeyc

I've used the anti white spot for now, and wait and see what happens :grin:

Duncan

 

[Rose]

Hey Adyec great minds think alike. Rose

 

[Davy Reynolds]

Duncan, Treat the finrot first, as it's bacterial, and treat the white spot by rasing the tempature. This way you can treat both at the same time

 

[Duncan]

Cheers ta Davy

I'll probably have to do a water change tomorrow, so I'm thinking that I might put some antifungus and finrot medicine in tomorrow, as a precaution.

I treated the whitespot last night after my water change, and this morning I had to do another water change as my nitrites were upto 5, and added a little more anti white spot. The whitespot has almost disappeared, I'm pleased about that.

After two hours since my water change today, my nitrites are at 3

Duncan

 

[adeyc]

Rose. You don't get much greater than us

Duncan. I should have posted this ages ago. the whitespot probably appeared as a result of stress due to the water conditions going up and down. glad to here things are starting to settle doen again, but continue to keep an eye on things.

 

[Duncan]

thanks adeyc

It was my suspicion that the white spot was caused due to the conditions, I'm all the more wiser now I think my nitrites are peaking now, I've some algae growing on a plant so I'll be getting my pleco before long.

One thing that does annoy me is some petshops are not dishing out the advice that they should, even when you've had fish before (20 years ago) and things change. My wife has a suspicion that another tank or two will appear but this time I'll be more patient and careful

Duncan