Is Everything Ok?

[Keithoms]

First of all i would like to say, that this is a coldwater tank, not tropical

Okay, here is the scenario. Im 14 and im new to fishkeeping. I got my new 13l tank and filled to maybe 2cm from the top and fitted the electric filter (has carbon filter inside). I added the 30 odd drops of Ammo-Lock as said on the box of the ammo lock. (Something like 3 drops per 1l). I waited half an hour then added the 40 or so dropps of Stress-Zyme. (6 per 1l).

About 5 days later, today, and i am going to get the fish tomorrow.
But this morning, i woke up and the tank had gone slightly cloudy. I scooped out some water and looked at it through light, a sort of murky white cloud.

Is everything ok? Are my ammonia levels too high (or something like that) or should i be fine getting my fish tomorrow.

-Keith.

Pics aren't very clear, but its worth a shot.

 

[PRW1988]

The cloud that you speak of is actually a bacterial bloom! It's a good thing means you're on the right track, keep doing what you're doing

 

[Keithoms]

The cloud that you speak of is actually a bacterial bloom! It's a good thing means you're on the right track, keep doing what you're doing

Really? Thats fantastic then. So, do you think its ok to put these 5 goldfish in tomorrow after the 4-5 days? (Ive seen places say wait two days up to 2 weeks).
Also, they are not the full size breed of goldfish, These are the mini mini shoal style ones.

 

[Tolak]

First of all, read up on cycling; http/www.fishforums.net/content/Beginner...esource-Center/

Second, that tank is not big enough for one goldfish, much less five. Never heard of mini mini goldfish, and I've been at this for a while. If this is something your local shop is selling you on take their advice with a large grain of salt. They are in business to turn a profit.

 

[Keithoms]

First of all, read up on cycling; [URL="http/www.fishforums.net/content/Beginner...esource-Center/"]http/www.fishforums.net/content/Beginner...esource-Center/[/URL]

Second, that tank is not big enough for one goldfish, much less five. Never heard of mini mini goldfish, and I've been at this for a while. If this is something your local shop is selling you on take their advice with a large grain of salt. They are in business to turn a profit.

They are kind of like neon size, but goldfish.

 

[Tolak]

They might be platys, in that case a trio would be the most you could keep in there after cycling.

 

[Keithoms]

They might be platys, in that case a trio would be the most you could keep in there after cycling.

Ok, ill just get 2, maybe 3 tomorrow. Ive reangled my filter so that the output just slightly skips the water surface, forcing in air bubbles. Is this better for the bacteria etc or should i put it back?

 

[Tolak]

That tank is not cycled, there has been no source of ammonia. Just running a tank with no fish does not cycle it. Read the articles on cycling in the link I provided.

 

[Keithoms]

That tank is not cycled, there has been no source of ammonia. Just running a tank with no fish does not cycle it. Read the articles on cycling in the link I provided.

I thought adding the stress-zyme (bacteria) created ammonia that helped the bacteria grow?

 

[Tolak]

Nope, read the articles on cycling, the nitrogen cycle, and nitrifying bacteria. You need to have an ammonia source, fishless cycling used pure ammonia, a traditional cycle with fish relies on fish waste. A really quick cycle might take two weeks. This would be the case if you started with some mature media from an already cycled & mature tank.

 

[Keithoms]

Nope, read the articles on cycling, the nitrogen cycle, and nitrifying bacteria. You need to have an ammonia source, fishless cycling used pure ammonia, a traditional cycle with fish relies on fish waste. A really quick cycle might take two weeks. This would be the case if you started with some mature media from an already cycled & mature tank.

Ok, so i should get one or two hardy (mini ) goldfish to start off the cycle? And back to my original Q, is angling the filter to create water bubbles ok?

 

[Tolak]

For a traditional cycle with fish the rule of thumb is one inch of fish per 5 gallons of water. Understand that by doing a traditional cycle you are exposing the fish to ammonia & nitrite, which can cause permanent damage, shortening the fish's life. You will also have to monitor ammonia & nitrites daily, as well as doing daily water changes to reduce the levels of ammonia & nitrite.

I would start with one of those fish, which I'm assuming are platys. Angling the filter to increase surface motion will help increase the O2 level, which will be needed when you start to see nitrites.

If they are indeed goldfish, they will get too large for that tank very quickly.

 

[Keithoms]

For a traditional cycle with fish the rule of thumb is one inch of fish per 5 gallons of water. Understand that by doing a traditional cycle you are exposing the fish to ammonia & nitrite, which can cause permanent damage, shortening the fish's life. You will also have to monitor ammonia & nitrites daily, as well as doing daily water changes to reduce the levels of ammonia & nitrite.

I would start with one of those fish, which I'm assuming are platys. Angling the filter to increase surface motion will help increase the O2 level, which will be needed when you start to see nitrites.

If they are indeed goldfish, they will get too large for that tank very quickly.

Ok thanks. Ill aim to get something small.

 

[Keithoms]

Hehe, just rebumping my old old thread. I want to laugh at this, its scary how little i knew. It turns out they were goldfish, just not jumbo pond ones. Thank god i know more now.

 

[arobinson1984]

Lol,

What happened to them? did you rehome them?

Andy