Inherited Tank/fish-Need Tank Size And Stocking Advice!

LittleLilian

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Hi there-

I inherited a 60 ltr stocked and planted tank about 3 weeks ago from a friend who didn't have enough time anymore to care for a tank, I have some fish experience but not very much with planted tanks, and I'm just not experienced enough to be sure whether this tank is too small for the current occupants. I have concerns about the amount/type/compatibility of the fish, I'm suspicious that the tank is overstocked and a bigger tank is required. The tank parameters seem to be stable and healthy at the moment, however. I'm feeding them a combination of algae wafers, catfish pellets and flake food. Do I need to add a cichlid specific flake or pellet?

Here are the current residents:

1 pleco (not sure what species, dark speckled brown)
2 yoyo loaches (juveniles, they are still quite small)
1 bronze cory
1 peppered cory
2 sterbai corys (who were spawning all day yesterday, but unfortunately the other fish have consumed the eggs almost immediately after they were laid! Nor do I have a second tank to raise little corys.....)
3 orange chromide cichlids (juveniles, about 4-4.5cm in length)
1 white tipped tetra
4 black phantom tetras (I believe 2 of these are female babies, they are about 2.5-3 cm in length, and have pink/red in their fins and body. The other two appear to be fully grown and have no red/pink)

Here are my main concerns:
As mentioned, the tank is currently planted with a gravel substrate, I plan to change this to sand for the cory's and loaches sake, as this is the natural environment for them and also one of the corys keeps getting a white spot on it's nose where its scraping it against the gravel. It is currently planted with Tetraplant Complete Substrate, my plan is to replace this when I replace the gravel with sand. How long will the substrate last, does it need to be replaced on a regular basis as well as fertilised regularly?


Is sand ok for the other residents?

There appears to be no aggression between the loaches and the other tank residents, but could this change as they continue to grow (I've had bad experiences with zebra loaches being very aggressive in the past)? I've read they can grow up to 6 inches, and also require quite a lot of floor space to stretch their fins, and potentially need more mates!

The orange chromide cichlids are still young, and I've read they can grow up to 3.5 inches, They also prefer brackish waters which have not been provided up until now. I've read that they will do well in a freshwater setting, as long as the water quality is maintained impeccably. Any advice on this?

So, in summary, what size tank would be suitable for these fish? Currently it is a very happy tank, the corys, loaches, and cichlids hang about together and really seem to follow eachother around the tank. The tetras seem to hang about in the plants and their own corners of the tank, which I believe is normal behaviour (they are a bit territorial, correct?)
Anyway, any help/assistance you can give would be very much appreciated!

Thanks so much!
 
Unless you meant 60 gallons, I'd have to say your over stocked.

plecos can grow up to 60 cm
yo-yo loaches need a 100 lt tank

You can research the fish you have here

WWW.aquahobby.com

I always check this site before I purchase fish to make sure if they are compatible, and if I have a big enough tank. You will want to rehome your loaches, and pleco for sure. I think you should be ok with the cory's and tetras.

Hope that helped.
 
Oh boy, I hate being the one to say this but I can't just leave this.

The Orange Chromide Cichlids will not be suitable because they need brackish water.
The Yo-yo Loaches are very active and rambunctious so they need at least a 100Ltr tank IMO,
The Pleco from your description sounds like a common pleco which grow MASSIVE, and will need a six foot tank at least to live.
You probably need to get rid of 2 species of cory and keep the one you like since you will need at least 6 of them.
The Tetras as you know need to be in a group of at least 6, so I would rehome the White-tipped tetra and up the number of Black Phantom to 8.

All the others, to be brutally honest, you either need to rehome or buy separate tanks for them. Afterwards your tank should really look like this.

8 Black Phantom Tetra
6 of some kind of Cory
and then you can think about adding other things.

Oh and the sand is fine.
If you wanted to keep all of the fish, you would be looking at a 6 foot tank, and a seperate 3 foot tank for the chromides.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's all for the good of the fish.

TekFish :good:
 
Thanks to you both, I knew the tank setup was far less than ideal, just wasn't sure exactly how improper it was (there is so much conflicting advice out there)and how to go about fixing the situation. I was hoping a 120 ltr tank would do the trick, but a 6 foot tank is definitely out of reach in both space and financial terms. Off to find proper homes for the fish I'm unable to provide suitable conditions for, thanks again!!
 
That would be best.
You can try your LFS, or you can put them up for sale here, somewhere you'd have to find it or someone else will pitch in.

TekFish :good:
 

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