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Info Wanted On A Couple Of Fish

Discussion in 'Tropical Discussion' started by Rochiie, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. Rochiie

    Rochiie Member

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    I do love tetras and because theirs so many types, i dont know what to choose or what i prefer but will get searching google for some. Never heard of Rasbora, but another thing ill look into. Someone told me last week that plecs will only grow to acomidate the tank,but was going to look into getting a smaller type. And i only planned on keeping the one male betta in the tank
     
  2. JenCliBee

    JenCliBee PleC & CorY MaD

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    Completely disregard to the pleco info you have been given, it's a misconception and ultimately ends up with the fish having serious health issues if they arnt accommodated correctly.... finding a smaller variety you like is a much better option, there are literally hundreds to chose from.

    A betta isn't suitable for a community based setup, they just require tank conditions which you will find hard to meet with a variety of fish... they can be very temperamental and possibly cause you more hassle than you would probably want.

    I know it's seems like we are kiboshing all your suggestions but it really is to help you make the right decision and to avoid any potential future problems... learning by other peoples mistakes ensures you never have to deal with them yourself [​IMG].
     
  3. HAMBONE

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    since this is your first fish, axe yourself a question: how much money do I want to waste on this fish I am aboot to kill?

    let the answer to that question be your guide whilst purchasing this fish..

    cheers [​IMG]
     
  4. JenCliBee

    JenCliBee PleC & CorY MaD

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    I honestly don't think that is the best guide to personally go by lol.... with good guidance and research there shouldn't be a risk of killing any fish... preparation and willing to learn should steer you through with very little if any problems at all.
     
  5. Rochiie

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    I honestly appreciate everyones time that they are putting into telling me about the fish i like and the set up, and im thankful that some ones come along and told me where im going wrong and what to avoid, most pet stores and garden centres have told me different but we all know why that is and with the right advice i can avoid killing my fish etc.

    Iv been researching a few fish whenever i can grab myself an hour or so, and im finding this forum quite handy as most of you tell me exactly how to go about things and give me honest advice, so thanks again!
     
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    So have you decided on some more appropriate fish? I am planning on setting up a new 125l tank within the next couple of months, its going to have a shoal of corys, a shoal of cardinal teras and a breeding pair of german blue rams and a few cherry shrimp. It is definitely better to go with a few larger shoals of a few species than a load of different species but only a few of each. You will fnid the behavior of fish is much more natural when they are in the appropriate shoal size.
     
  7. JenCliBee

    JenCliBee PleC & CorY MaD

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    Most are always happy to help on here, me included :).

    It's actually nice to see somebody researching and asking questions tbh... and ultimately taking the advice... nothing worse than giving advice for it to be ignored and then you have a thread in the emergency section a couple weeks later because there having problems [​IMG]
     
  8. Rochiie

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    Whats the point in seeking advice if your going to ignore it? that must be pretty annoying spending time helping someone for them to not even acknowledge the advice given.

    And Sebn, not yet, just got on the labtop now little oens asleep so im going to look into some fish now! I thought rams where cichlids and couldnt live within a comunnity tank.... I will now most certainly do abit of research into them now youv said that!
     
  9. JenCliBee

    JenCliBee PleC & CorY MaD

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    It can be very frustration, it makes it all the worse... when it's them purposely asking for advice and then ignoring it, makes you wonder why the questions were asked in the first place lol... but hey ho.

    As to the rams, yes they are actually good community fish, they are cichlids but quite a passive one.... they can become aggressive if breeding but it's more alot of chasing fish away from eggs or fry than out and out aggression.

    Just be aware though, GBR's like mentioned require a much higher temp and are more sensitive to water params than there equally as nice cousin, Bolivian rams..... both are very nice fish indeed though :)
     
  10. wirralbull

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    tiger barbs zebra danioes and a red tail black shark could work i think
     
  11. ScholasticSpastic

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    This simply isn't true. All you need for a happy betta are:

    1) Areas of low flow in the tank. Your entire tank does NOT have to be low flow to accommodate a betta. I'm keeping a betta in a 180 US gallon planted tank with tetras, rasboras, and corys and he's quite happy in there. This is a sump system with appreciable return flow. All I've had to do is redirect the return flow so he's got areas of respite. Current is not a no-go zone for bettas as long as they've somewhere to retreat to when they require rest. Some opportunities to fight current on their own terms will result in a HEALTHIER betta.

    2) Correct temperature. Anywhere between 75 and 84 degrees F is sufficient to keep your betta happy.

    3) The right tank-mates. You need fish which will not snatch food away from your betta or which will allow you to target feed your betta. You need fish which will not nip your betta's fins. You need fish which are fast enough to get away from your betta when he's in a mood; and you need a tank which is large enough for fish to have somewhere to retreat to.

    All this nonsense about bettas requiring smaller tanks is quite false. Bettas are easier to mix with other fish in larger tanks, where there is more volume to diffuse temporary aggressive urges. I'd rather keep a betta in a 30+ US gallon community tank than a <20 US gallon community tank for that reason.
     
  12. JenCliBee

    JenCliBee PleC & CorY MaD

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    There are aspects to your reply i agree with but if i may.......


    Saying all this above, i agree that there is always an exception to rule, if there wasnt then life would be quite boring frankly... but i guarentee you, there will be much more of a higher percentage of failer rate by a system like yours than with a system from which ive mentioned.

    So really even though your setup 'may' be working with your fish, the next 10 setups doing similar may actually be complete failiures.... we have to give info based on the percentages, 1 out of the possible next 10 that fail is not really the best way to say they will have no problems and all will be fine.
     
  13. The Taffy Apple

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    Couldn't think of anything worse.

    Terry.
     

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