If you stock it they will come

[AilyNC]

Tank is ordered so no rush with this & pretty flexible/open to suggestions. The Platies are already in my 58L/16 Gallon though mostly as fry. The Pleco & forktail I really want.

Tank 36" x 18" x 12" 127L/34 US Gallons
Ph 8, KH 19, GH 14, Water company says 307ppm.

Platies x 9
L129 Pleco x1
Forktail blue eyed rainbow fish x 10.
Endlers x 10
Celestial Pearl Danio x 8
Molly lyretail black x 3
Turquoise Danio x 8

Maybe it's too much?

Maybe shrimp at some point or else put shrimp in my 58L/16 Gallon.

Tank journal here:

A place 4 my questions & ponderings as I build a 34 Gallons (127L) tank

I finally ordered my tank! I'm so excited I danced around the kitchen & my husband is like "eh... You ok?!" I've ordered the Clearseal (L)36" x (W)18" x (H)12" tank. It's 127 Litres (34 US gallons). I've ordered a custom glass sliding lid too. The tank (€114) will arrive with Seahorse Aquarium...

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[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

You're planning to keep all nine platy fry?

Honestly, it does sound as though it would be overstocked to me, I'm sorry

But try inputting that stocking list and tank size etc into aqua advisor and see what it says. It's not a perfect system and it tends to suggest things are overstocked even if they're fine, so if it says like 110 or 120% stocked, it might actually be fine. But if it says it's like 200% stocked, might be worth rethinking it.

 

[AilyNC]

You're planning to keep all nine platy fry?

Honestly, it does sound as though it would be overstocked to me, I'm sorry

But try inputting that stocking list and tank size etc into aqua advisor and see what it says. It's not a perfect system and it tends to suggest things are overstocked even if they're fine, so if it says like 110 or 120% stocked, it might actually be fine. But if it says it's like 200% stocked, might be worth rethinking it.

No need to apologise that's why I'm asking so I don't mess up stock.

I checked on AqAdvisor & it says 88% stocked with all this fish listed. 95% if I add an Albino Bristlenose Pleco too.

Regarding the Platy I'm not crazy about them as adults but I don't know what to do. Local fish shop or PetStop would be my only option if they'd even be willing to take them. An LFS is a hell hole

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

No need to apologise that's why I'm asking so I don't mess up stock.

I checked on AqAdvisor & it says 88% stocked with all this fish listed. 95% if I add an Albino Bristlenose Pleco too.

Regarding the Platy I'm not crazy about them as adults but I don't know what to do. Local fish shop or PetStop would be my only option if they'd even be willing to take them. An LFS is a hell hole

I'd trust aqua advisor over me! lol. Most of them are small fish so that helps Just that mollies get pretty big full grown, and nine platies is quite a lot and plecos have a high bioload, but I'm not experienced with the other fish either, and it can be hard to imagine a tank with certain numbers and varieties of fish, ya know? I'm sure others with a lot more experience will be along shortly and can give experienced advice!

With the platies, you could rehome them by listing them online. That would allow you to vet the homes a little too, just check what size tank they have and get a sense of if they know what they're talking about and will look after your babies
@NCaquatics sells her fish this way, I'm sure she'd be happy to give you some pointers for how to vet the new home without being rude or anything.

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

Oh man, my bad! I was still thinking you were getting a 22 gallon like seangees, I forgot you'd decided on a 34 gallon. That does make a big difference! It does sound okay to me My brain isn't working today... lol

 

[Byron]

One obvious issue is the gender of the platies and mollies (Endlers too, but they are not as prolific breeding). If there is female/male among the platies or mollies, the female(s) will be delivering batches of fry monthly. Separating male/female early enough to prevent impregnation can be difficult. Some fry will get eaten, but depending upon the number of females, many would likely survive.

 

[Ch4rlie]

I’d really not advise anyone to trust any website that claims to reliably calculate stocking numbers for any tank.

There are simply far too many variables to trust these types of sites, filter types, tank set ups, fish species compatibility, water flow, tank dimensions and so on and so forth.

Your best bet is to ask experienced keepers if such x and y species at such x and y numbers be suitable with as much information of your tank set up, will you then get a more informed idea.

And most of us will be happy to help out.

So don’t trust or rely on such websites, I’ve heard too many inconsistencies and horror stories about these site over the years I’ve been on this forum.
Perhaps as a extremely rough guide to give you a bit of an idea, then maybe use them but nothing beats experienced keepers who have kept these actual species to advise you.

 

[AilyNC]

One obvious issue is the gender of the platies and mollies (Endlers too, but they are not as prolific breeding). If there is female/male among the platies or mollies, the female(s) will be delivering batches of fry monthly. Separating male/female early enough to prevent impregnation can be difficult. Some fry will get eaten, but depending upon the number of females, many would likely survive.

Could I do 10 male Endlers or will they go crazy? And keep 3+ Platies of same gender? Same for Molly. Basically Fry are cute but I'm not so sure about monthly lots!

 

[AilyNC]

I’d really not advise anyone to trust any website that claims to reliably calculate stocking numbers for any tank.

There are simply far too many variables to trust these types of sites, filter types, tank set ups, fish species compatibility, water flow, tank dimensions and so on and so forth.

Your best bet is to ask experienced keepers if such x and y species at such x and y numbers be suitable with as much information of your tank set up, will you then get a more informed idea.

And most of us will be happy to help out.

So don’t trust or rely on such websites, I’ve heard too many inconsistencies and horror stories about these site over the years I’ve been on this forum.
Perhaps as a extremely rough guide to give you a bit of an idea, then maybe use them but nothing beats experienced keepers who have kept these actual species to advise you.

Going on water parameters & seriously fish description of behaviour I think those fish would work out. But I don't need to get the numbers or all the species. I am totally open to suggestions. And I think I'd forget the Molly & reduce the Platys. The poop and pop out fry too much

 

[WhistlingBadger]

Aqadvisor is a good starting point, but not the be-all-end-all. It does take filters and dimensions into consideration.

You might want to check out the water hardness parameters for your chosen species and compare them with what you have. You have some very hard-water species, and I believe some soft-water species too (I'd look it up for you but I am at work and have to get back at it).

Numbers-wise, you're probably OK, but as Bryce said, you probably won't stay that way once the livebearers start doing their thing.

 

[AilyNC]

Aqadvisor is a good starting point, but not the be-all-end-all. It does take filters and dimensions into consideration.

You might want to check out the water hardness parameters for your chosen species and compare them with what you have. You have some very hard-water species, and I believe some soft-water species too (I'd look it up for you but I am at work and have to get back at it).

Numbers-wise, you're probably OK, but as Bryce said, you probably won't stay that way once the livebearers start doing their thing.

I've checked all the fish alongside seriously fish and my water hardness 307ppm & pH 8. All are ok though I was worried it was too hard for the Pleco but had reassurance from @seangee about Plecos and hard water. Or maybe it was @mbsqw1d.

 

[WhistlingBadger]

Plecos seem pretty adaptable.

 

[Byron]

Could I do 10 male Endlers or will they go crazy? And keep 3+ Platies of same gender? Same for Molly. Basically Fry are cute but I'm not so sure about monthly lots!

With any livebearer species, unless you are intending to breed them, only acquire males, always. Females can be impregnated as fry and then off they go for several batches.

If you do have females of a livebearer species with males present, there must be more females than males to avoid killing them. Three females to a male, and maintain this ratio no matter how many. In other words, threee females for one male does not mean four females for two males, as two males "in heat" can seriously harm so few females. Huge tanks obviously can help, but the pheromones released by the fish and read by their fellows is still high stress.

 

[AilyNC]

The feminist in me is crying saying this but with live-bearers I think I'll stick with males only or skip them altogether. I've liked having this batch of platy fry but it'd be hectic doing it monthly, & would quickly be overstocked.

 

[CassCats]

Id just do the group of male endlers.

Male platies and male mollies can become really nasty with each other