Ich Treatment Advice Please

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Noticed some of my fish flashing so upon closer inspection some have Ich. I have added API Super Ick Cure, which turned my water a lovely shade of blue. Raised the temp to 82F (28C) and removed the Purigen from my filter. NH3 at 0.001. Anything else I should do? Aquarium salt? Thanks!
 
you'll have much more luck with raising the temperature to atleast 85, as when the temperature is 82 it speeds up the life cycle of the parasite but doesnt prevent it from reproducing or it doesnt eliminate it. also, adding aquarium salt is your next step, but if you have fish that dont are intolerant of it them avoid introducing it into your tank :good:
 
A fellow Texan! 82F already makes me nervous, can my fish tolerate 85F? I don't know if my fish are tolerant of salt. :crazy: My stock is in my sig, are they tolerant? Thanks podna!
 
hmm, The zebras might not be too fond of such high temperatures, and be stressed in those conditions leading too further developing ich, so now that I think about it, just stay with 82, and only raise it when, and if the disease progresses further :good:

Now the fact that you have tetras might prevent you from using a full dose of salt, They can develop internal problems from salt and mineral substances in the water. So for this reason, I recommend a half or quarter dose of salt in your tank
 
The situation is similar, the reason why I used the Danios as an example is because they are known not to tolerate higher temperatures like rosy barbs can, most of my danios have died quick in higher temperatures. :good:
 
Here is a brief summary of the events in my tank over the last 9 days with my Ich nightmare...

Monday: Lionhead "dad" unusually swimming at the water surface, no signs of disease

Tuesday: As above

Weds: As above, but then notice my goodeids are not just at the water surface as per normal, a few of the group are tilted head up as if gasping for oxygen. I do a ~75% water change, my hunch is something is wrong, but not toxins (both 0)

Thurs: True cause reveals itself, my decora are coated head to toe in spots, on close inspection some on the goodeids too. I turn 300W heater to 32C, water reaches 29C in matter of ~3 hours, raise spraybar above water fro extra rippling. Add half dose Protozin, knowing bottle >12 months old, but worried about fry/synos. Just before bedtime, two decora are in full view unusually and desperately trying to stay high in water column in line of spraybar.

Fri: Two decora dead. Buy new bottle of Protozin, add half dose, I panick and wonder if the rapid raise of temp 23-29C was a bad move and maybe I diagnosed wrong (cronic Velvet with high temp can be fatal), so I turn off heater to let temp drop back to 23C naturally. Just before bedtime, three decora are up high.

Sat: Half dose first thing. Three decora dead at 1300, but then really upset to find Lionhead "dad" dead too (with no signs of spots... oxygen levels at high temp, bad water from dead decora?). ~60% water change, later add another half dose Protozin (so tank has really had ~75% dose on the day). Upside Down in really bad way dies later that afternoon. Temp raised to 25/26C

Sun: Full dose Protozin. Last remaining decora found dead at ~1215. Sainsburys Coarse Sea Salt bought and 0.25g/l added slowly (dissolved in boiling water, then mixed with cold to tank temp).

Mon: Decide to do a "day 3" full dose Protozin, add another 0.25g/l of dissolved salt. No new deaths. Temp raised to 27/28C

Tues: No more Protozin until Thursday. No new deaths.

Weds: Might be hiding, but one of the goodeid youngsters (~5 weeks old) is AWOL, can only count six (but very overcast outside so natural lighting in tank is dark).



My biggest regrets once I knew I had Ich is that in hindsight, I would raise the temp up more gradually from their normal 22/23C to 30C, the oversize heater for the tank volume rapidly heated the tank and quickly reduced oxygen levels for fish showing stressed breathing. In this respect, I also wish I had the salt to hand from the start, it would have helped the fish respire while covered and may well have saved some of the decora.

Good luck with your battle.:good:
 
Must be a month for ich! I had it in my tank two weeks ago, i ramped up the temp to 30 degrees and left it for a week, then did a 3 day half dose course of an Ich med called Protozin by Waterlife then put the temp to 28 to reduce stress on the fish. I then left it two days and then added a further half doze for the following two days. No Ich on fish any more, no flashing and a couple of water changes to do tonight and tomorrow and i might add some carbon. No reason to remove Purigen by the way. hope that helps a little. Ziiiiiiiiing
 
Thanks Tizer! :good: I removed the Purigen only because it said to do so on the Seachem website. So far my fish are acting more healthy. Another dose of the API med tomorrow. Glad I held on to the carbon pads that came with my filters. What are your thoughts on aquarium salt? I added a quarter dose since I had some in my fish emergency med supply.
 
i wont add salt as i have corys in there, with meds i tend to try one thing at a time and not several, with the temp turned up its stressful enough as it is for them. up to you though, thats just my personal take on treatment.
 
From what I gather, as long as you have no heavily salt-intolerant fish in there like Corydoras, a gradual raising of salt levels over 24-48 hours can really help the fish two fold...
It will attack the free swimming Ich phase
It will help the fish breathe easier (getting rid of waste products), because of an osmotic effect created by the added salt

Until I had a visit from experienced fishkeepers, I would never have considered salt in my Ich tank, because of the Weather Loach. However, having said that, I believe the 0.5g/l I've added over two days is relatively low on the doseage scale.
 

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