I Need An Angel Identification Please!

[kribensis12]

Hi,
I bought an angel about 3 days ago and it is eating voraciously and I wanted to know if you could indentifiy the breed of the fish please?http/i147.photobucket.com/albums/r300/kribfreak/Unidentifiedangelfish.jpg
I know it isnt the best pic but when you are using a Kodak Easy Share camera it is about the best you can do because of the focous but It takes awsome pics as long as the camera isnt taking pics of water because it srews up the pic!

 

[jayjay]

There are only two species of angelfish Pterophyllum scalare and Pterophyllum altum. You have a scalare.

Unless you want us to name the colour or something

 

[severum boy]

There are only two species of angelfish Pterophyllum scalare and Pterophyllum altum.

Hey sorry about this, but there are three species of angelfish; Pterophyllum scalare, Pterophyllum altum and Pterophyllum leopoldi.
Your fish is a bred variation of P. scalare, usually called a silver angelfish. Treat it like any other scalare.

 

[LisaLQ]

Looks like a gold.

Is he like this:

 

[helterskelter]

That a common gold angel.

Pterophyllum altum is a stunning fish but much harder to keep and very difficualt to breed in the aquaria.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

That a common gold angel.

Pterophyllum altum is a stunning fish but much harder to keep and very difficualt to breed in the aquaria.

And just a little add on, they tend to get quite alot bigger then Pterophyllum Scalare

 

[kribensis12]

Pterophyllum Altum was offered to me for 50 dollars a fish, but I dont have 50 dollars and dont have a big enough tank.My angel looks a little like that but no gold on head and a hint of gold on his/her finnage. But my freind who works at my favorite lfs said that it is just a tiny baby and as it grows bigger it will get more color.

 

[LisaLQ]

That was Goldie (see my thread about my angels breeding called "Well well well" on here) when he was just a bit bigger than a baby. It's a deceiving photo - in real life the yellow didn't show up as much, if at all. He just looked pink/cream. He's now a lovely gold colour with a really bright orange head

 

[kribensis12]

Yeah, mine is a cream color also. I am thinking about putting 2 more angels in there. Is that advisable? I have a 20 gallon flat hexagon high tank. I have 2 male swords( got to get rid of one, fighting) 3 female swords, 1 borelli apisto, 1 tadp[ole( temporary), I planned to have the angels pair of and take the other one back.

 

[aquaticadmirer]

Angels are pretty territorial. Three angels in a 20 gallon tank probably won't give them enough space to spread out and minimize fighting. If they do pair off, then a breeding pair in a 20 gallon is just fine, but in the meantime I think you're going to have a lot of torn fins while you're waiting for it to happen.

 

[Tolak]

3 angels would give you a 75% chance of getting a pair. Full grown adult angels need 10 gallons each, potential breeders can get by with 5 gallons each. Angels will show pairing behavior before they are full grown, usually around 9 months of age is when you will start to see some aggression. You could start with 4 angels & have an 87.5% chance of getting a pair.

One concern would be the swords getting nippy with the younger angels, then the maturing angels getting nippy with the swords. The apisto should get by fine, By the time the angels start to pair the tadpole should be rehomed, as it will be a frog.

Another concern is what you will do once you get a pair. The apisto, being a nw cichlid, will be able to read the body language of the spawning angels & steer clear, especially if there is a little nook for it to hide in. The swords won't have a clue, have a nice long tail like an angel, so will be seen as a threat. They will probably need to be rehomed.

If you are successful at getting a spawn to grow out you will need some major tank space. 300 dime size angels need 1/2 gallon each, that is about the smallest sellable size. Smaller ones can be traded, if you know someone with room to grow them out. Check out http/fins.actwin.com/dir/clubs.php?c=1&r=27 to see if there is a club near you.

 

[pinkdolphin_113]

okay, topic went a little mislead for abit there.

what you have is known as a diamond. the gold bit on it makes it a blusher. your angel doesnt have this on it so its just a diamond angel. people get the idea that diamond angels can only be pearlscales but this isnt true. the same rule applies with any other angel ( but ive yet to see a black or half black blusher tbh )

and i think the person knew it wasn't gonna be an altum as the prices do go up just the slightest

anyone correct me if im wrong

 

[KathyM]

what you have is known as a diamond. the gold bit on it makes it a blusher. your angel doesnt have this on it so its just a diamond angel.


anyone correct me if im wrong

You're wrong *lol*. "Blushers" are angels with clear gill plates, making their "cheeks" look pinkish red. uite often they lose this as they mature and get more colouring on their gills.

 

[LisaLQ]

I was going to say - Goldie's definitely not a blusher, he's just a bog standard gold! All golds have yellow heads, just some not as much as others? I think...

But Goldie does have bumpy scales too, someone once said they thought he was a pearlscale but I dont know. No pics to show you what I mean though.

But the OPs angel just looks like a gold to me too. His head may get yellower as he grows, but that wont make him a blusher.

Just found this on a google search:

GOLD- This is a strain characterized as having a pure gold body. As adults, the forehead is known to get orange depending upon the environment. True breeding in double dose.

Taken from here:
http/members.aol.com/AngelBook/angel8.htm

They also say:

BLUSHERS- A characteristic where the gills are transparent causing them to appear red. This characteristic is like the veil-tail gene whereas it can be bred into all of the varieties of fish. Two stripeless genes make a blushing fish, one gene gives a stripeless fish.

 

[jayjay]

Ah yes, sorry, there are three species