I Am Trying To Breed Opaline Gouramis And Gold Again

[Fizban]

i have 2 gold females and a opaline gourami male i have lowered water turned the heat up a bit and the male is showing no intrest in chaseing the girls hes not makeing a bubbel nest and hes not acting aggresive his colors are normal as well is there any other way to try and make him intrested

 

[bunlet]

He's a gay!

 

[TammyLiz]

You didn't mention what you were feeding them and if the females were carrying eggs, what size tank, if there are any tankmates that may be bothering them, whether you have any surface agitation that would prevent him from building a nest, if you have any floating plants, etc. If you list those things than Sylvia will be able to help you better when she gets online.
Maybe they're just not ready and you need to condition them more, or just wait. I don't think just raising the temperature will guarantee a spawn.

 

[Fizban]

the size of the tank im not shore of but i have had other gouramis breed in there with no worrys i have floating plants and seeing as this is the tank i use when i want to breed some there are no tank mate theres only the male and the 2 females in there .........near shore the females have eggs cuz they have fat bellys .........surface agitation???what do u mean by that ....feeding them on tropical fish flakes and pellet/sinking food stuff that the shop mixers so it dose not have a brand name and frozen blood worms and colour enhancing flakes i herd its good too feed them on difrent typs of food if posible ........i am hopeing Sylvia may give some hints as to what i could try but sad to say breeding the golds Sylvia gave me info then but nuthing happened so i thort maby the golds were a bit young so i thort for shore it would work this time but its not i may have forgoten some thing i should try sooooooooooooo any info Sylvia can give or any one is good ................................................................................................................................................................
(oh apart from saying he is gay)

 

[TammyLiz]

Yeah, Sylvia would be the one to talk to. It sounds like you're doing a good job to me...
By surface agitation I was just meaning to ask if you had too much water movement at the surface for him to make a bubble nest, but if you've bred other gouramis in the same setup, I take that as answer enough that that isn't the problem. Maybe like you said they are just too young. I don't know how big yours are but mine are about 2 1/2 inches and show no interest in breeding. (thank goodness!) They're just young, I think. They seem happy enough.
Good luck.

 

[Fizban]

thanks i hope i get some good info that i dont no about as well oh and your right i have no surface agitation
if it is cuz there still too young then they must be so near the time they can breed cuz i have had them all for at least over half a year when i got them they were alittle under middel size now there probly a little under there full size but im shore you can breed them befor there at there 100% full size pluss the female have gotten fat ..........i think realy it will work out if the male ever makes a nest but for some reson he dose not want to

 

[Fizban]

sighs i gave up on the opaline gourami male and put in a blue gourami male thats just alittle bit bigger he is very intrested in the females and this is the part of breeding three spots i hate cuz the male gos after the female in a very agressive way its hard to tell if the males attacking her cuz he hates her in the tank or if its just him wanting to breed ,, i feel sorry for the females poor dears

 

[sylvia]

Hi

First of all about the blue you're trying to breed now - if he's acting aggressive and the female's not acting interested, seperate them. Feed the female lots of live or frozen foods for a while and let her get realy fat and gravid. When she's full of eggs and ready to breed, put the male in again and things should go smoother ie: there should be less aggression.

Concerning the opaline, my first inclination would be to ask whether you are certain the fish is a male. Obviously, if it's in fact a female, there's no way they could breed
However, by the sounds of it, the issue would be something else. It could well be age/maturity. What can always help in these situations is to isolate the male in a tank with no other gouramies for a while and, at the same time, condition the female with live foods in a slightly warmer tank until she looks ready to breed. Then put them in together again and you should find that the male, having been all alone for so long, responds immediately. It can often help to be adding the female to the male's territory if you try this.
So, if you do have a spare tank to put your male in, keep him in there alone at an ordinary temperature. meanwhile, in another tank, raise the temperature and start feeding the female all sorts of live/frozen foods such as bine shrimp and bloodworms. As soon as the female looks plump and full of eggs, raise the temperature in the male's tank so it's just higher than the temperature in the female's tank (do this over a period of a few hours so as not to shock him) and then add the female. Lowering the water level at this time can also help - as can doing a large water change.

 

[Fizban]

okayyy well some thing new has happened in the mean time the male has made a decent bubble nest this is the blue (oh and im 99% shore the opaline i had in there is male) any way back to whats happening i have been watching them the bubble nest apeared at night some time it of a nice size the females are being chased but they have not been hurt i think he may be giveing a little bite or head butt here and there but nuthing that i think is to worry about cuz i think it was u who told me not to worry last time when i had fry and the male had torn up her fin abit that it was normal and they heal fast after oh and the females are fat thats why i thort i would try breeding them it is there first time could this be why there abit of truble ?i cant give them live food the best i can do is frozen blood worms and flakes and sinking pellets...i find it hard to tell if the female's acting interested cuz they seem to always fight when breed i tend to leave them in together for a few weeks if they are getting hurt too much i take them out or if after that time nuthings happened i stop trying and take them out

 

[Miss Dib Dabs]

Ah, as first timers there may well be problems. I have a female blue (Aptly named Blue) and she has been chock full of eggs for months. Bear in mind my male lives with the girls full time. They tried spawnign for several weeks some time ago but she'd panic and destroy the bubblenest. So now he simply leaves her alone and doesn't worry about it at all. She may never spawn or she may calm enough to go ahead with it. My gold girls are always happy to spawn and have no issues with nerves.
I also should point out he never chases the girls. But having bred bettas they do chase and I believe when they are not used to each others company as mine are they will chase. Look for flaring from the male. If he's displaying his finnage to her (which is their equivalent of a flare) and she is not looking intrested she may simply not be ready yet. Try feeding plenty of defrosted frozen bloodworms for a couple of weeks rather then flake food.
Hugs,
P.

 

[Fizban]

oh hes ready hes trying his best to ) umm well yes dance tails with her and his colors gone realy dark but she runs and he chasers he has a big nest near the heater ...if nuthing happens in the next few days i am going to give up on them for now .(cuz i dont want more browns im keeping the big female far away from the breeding tank

 

[FCRM91488]

i just successfully breeded an opaline male with a female gold last week...i got about 200 fry because they are only 2 and a half inches...what i did i set up a ten gallon aquarium...filled it up half way and divided it in half with a clear plexi glass.....fed them both betta pellets(which i heard are good for conditioning them) and bloodworms and brine shrimps as well.....seeing the female and not being able to get to her agitated the male and he started changing into all sorts of diffrent colors...he had black stripes when i put them together...about a week later i noticed there were about 200 floating eggs....one thing which was unusual was that he only built a nest after the fry hatched but he really dedicated himself to taking care of them...its been 6 days and i havent lost any of the fry...im feeding them liquid formulated food and i use a syphon pump to remove the dirt from the floor....i kept the temperature at 95 degrees F and the water ph at 7 when the pair was being conditioned....after the fry hatched and the male and female were removed i dropped the temperature to 90 degrees and i sealed the aquarium with only a hole for the wires(so there is a good amount of pressure for them to develop their labirynth organ)....i hope that atleast some of this information will be helpful on your quest to mix an opaline and a gold....and if anyone is interested i will be selling the fry soon...have a good day