I Am A Fish Murderer

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JUST A RANT, I GUESS

My poor fish. I've killed roughly...20?...since August.

I'm not sure I have any other purpose here except to bemoan their fates.

Well, I adopted 3 goldfish from my parents, who didn't want them anymore. They were fine for about a month, then I decided to upgrade their tank size. I thought they'd appreciate that, but in the process of setting everthing up and transferring them, I stressed them out so bad that they broke out into ich and I couldn't save them. I didn't know anything about cycling and such things at the time, because I had never had fish before.

Of course, I felt pretty bad about that because they were about 3 years old. But I had a 30 gallon so I figured I ought to give it another go. I cycled it this time... over several weeks, I stocked it with 5 platies, 9 minnows, a pleco, and a rainbow shark. They were doing fine for about 2 months, then my cat decided to launch an assault on the tank while I was at work. He knocked a bunch of stuff into the tank and I came home to find him fishing....he didn't catch anything, but he freaked them out and my 2 panda platies broke out into that damned ich. I turned up the heat on the tank and put in salt at that point. Unfortunately, the biggest male platy attacked them the next day while I was gone and tore up their tails (he was chasing them around the tank when I got home). The ich was mild in the fish and cleared up fast this time, but the pandas were really messed up from having their tails ripped up and died. That was really frustrating. Then I left the top half open one day and a minnow committed suicide.

So I'm feeling pretty bad about that. Then I came yesterday to find another platy dead, and this death is particularly annoying because I don't even know why it happened, as the fish had been perfectly healthy as far as I could tell. I bought a couple of replacement platies the other day and had them in a small quarantine tank to keep an eye on them because they seemed kind of lethargic and one has a strange yellow streak on his tail. But tonight I was changing some of the water out and a platy jumped and went down the sink drain. I tried to grab him but he wiggled out of my grasp on down he went. #136###!!! And the other guy still has a weird looking tail so I don't know if he's sick and dying...

Oh god, that's not even including the original 12 minnows I got that my cat feasted upon.

Basically, I think I am cursed with a fishy touch of death and it is causing me to despair. I love fish and having an aquarium but I hate that I can't go for more than a couple of months without some catastrophe befalling them. It's stressing me out and I might be the next to break out in ich...
The 30 gallon now consists of 8 minnows, 2 platy, a pleco and the rainbow shark. I'm afraid to add anymore fish although I'd like to. The minnows are just some little gray guys I saved from a ditch that was drying up. They are rather plain so I'd like some more colorful fish in there, but can't seem to keep them alive.

As far as I can tell, according to water readings the tank is fine (I clean it regularly, have good filtration, treat water when changing it, etc), it is just stupid bad luck that keeps wiping out fishes.

Is it normal to lose a lot of fish when one is getting into the hobby? I keep trying to tell myself that at some point I will have a stable aquarium, where many months or hopefully years will pass when nobody has to die.
 
I think that's common when you're on your way in. I had my fair share of deaths. Like 20 since July when I started. I made sure I "cycled" my tank for a nice 3 days. :p just let the filter go. Surprisingly the first month went great. Then 1 died. 2 weeks later one died then s good month. Then ich. Uggggh. Whole tank gone but 1 Molly. My tank is flourishing now though. :)

Oh and I forgot about the 4 1/2 neons I killed last week in "quarantine". 4 died and I returned the last because he looked bad.
 
Sorry to hear that. I would recommend to just start from scratch and do a fishless cycle. Then slowly ( I say slowly because you wouldn't want the fish to get too stressed. I know that you can fully stock it but with the luck you're having I wouldnt recommend it. ;) ) start stocking the tank. I would recommend some hardy spices like barbs, platys, and tetras.

I wish you the best of luck from now on. :D

:rip:
 
The tank is already cycled...I'm not starting that evil process all over again. The water is testing fine. I did kill my goldfish due to putting them in a non-cycled tank but I don't think it's the issue anymore.

Problems seem to be 1. murder amongst fishes (bad platy!) 2. suicide (stupid jumpers, don't they know they need to be in water?) 3. naughty kitty (killed 12 directly and 2 indirectly) 4. human error (dumping fish in uncycled tank) 5. random death?

One of the platies is a nipper. He is the one who killed my panda platies...pretty much ripped their tails up and they were done for. I'm thinking I should take him to the pet store to see if they'll swap him for a less agressive fish (although he is a very pretty specimen). But I don't want to change anything for awhile until I'm sure everybody seems alive and healthy.

I just hate to see so many die. It's depressing me.
 
I've had bad luck too and feel like a fish murderer sometimes. Since April 30th ... let's see, 3 angelfish, 3 platies, 2 cory cats, 2 dwarf gourami -- killed due to new tank syndrome due to thinking that bacteria starter would solve the issue!

Plus, 6+ bettas, 7+ tiger barbs, 2 black ruby barbs, 6 cardinal tetras, 4 angelfish, 1 oto, 2 small fantail goldfish, 1 platy, 7+ zebra danios, plus more I'm probably forgetting -- most of the latter due to unknown reasons

What has survived more than 3 months: 1 male betta (happens to be one of my original fish!), 3 gold barbs, 3 cherry barbs; almost if not over 3 months are 1 black ruby barb and 3 platies I think. Plus 3 zebra danios now in a new home.

I've not had any fish deaths for a month or more, knock on wood!
 
I totally sympathise. When I first began fishkeeping, I had numerous fish deaths- zebra danios, swordtails and platys. You name it, my fish had it when it comes to disease, so much that one side of my tank cabinet was full of treatments. I used to get very upset by it, but one day it all just stopped, after about three months. I then only lost fish periodically as you would expect with nature. I then restocked my tank with black ruby barbs, bleeding heart tetras and some corydoras, keeping it quite simple and being careful with my water changes. I never had any issues with diease, just the usual algae.

I am now restarting my aquarium after a full clean out which real plants this time and a more natural looking setting, since all the other fish have over time passed away except a cory which has now gone to live in my fathers tank and is extremely happy there. This time around I'm going to try not to panic and keep a regular eye on my water parameters.

Good luck with your tank
 
I would be concerned that your random "minnows" might indeed be Gambusia Affinis (Mosquito fish,) which are sneaky and kind of nasty fin nippers. Even though you saw your male platy chasing the female, it could be them that caused the damage. Google the name and see if that's your "minnow." If so, first order would be replacing them with less nippy fish. Could be them causing lots of stress. They could also be carrying pathogens from their days in the ditch. It's usually best not to put fish caught in the wild into your tank.
 
oh maaaan you are unlucky!!! i think the worst thing i ever did was whack the nitrate bottle #2 (api) too hard and ended up spillingthe whole tot into my pond and killing EVERYTHING IN THERE!!!

about 280/90 casualties but hey ho :)
 
I think that was auto correct. It does it a bunch on my iPod which is really annoying because I'll reread the post after I submitted it and I'll have to edit on this tiny screen. :)

Another Edit: Figures
 
Meant to say well blubble that's unlucky. Xerotolerance has it right auto-correct. While helpful at times annoying at others.
 
Let's see..............I'm very new to this hobby & I've lost quite a few fish myself.

Since October 1st I've lost:

(1) Silver Molly - Died the day after I put her in the tank

(3) Dwarf Gouramis, 1 Male Flame & 2 Rainbow females - Dwarf Gourami Disease

(1) Gold Gourami male - Ich or something similar, still haven't figured it out

(2) Pearl Gourami females - Ich or sosmething similar, maybe internal parasites?

(1) Gold Gourami female - I cured her Ich & she came down with bacterial/internal parasite and died several weeks later

(2) Albino Corries - Died during treatment for Ich

(1) Otocinclus Cat - Just found him laying on the bottom, looked kinda whitish on his sides

(1) Cherry Barb female - Just found her laying on her side at the bottom, no signs of any disease

(1) Von Rio Flame Tetra - Found him stuck to filter, dead for no apparent reason

(1) Lemon Tetra - I brought home 2 Lemons to add to my 4 to complete a school & found 1 of the 4 dead

That's 14 fish between 2 tanks in just about 3 months!!! Now the good news, I have successfully cycled my larger tank & I have well over 40 fish that are doing great! In this hobby you can't rush things, start slowly and don't hold these early deaths against yourself. You don't know how much stress these fish had between being shipped to the store, being kept with too many fish in too small of a tank, & other factors beyond your control. Always make sure you do your research on what fish go together based on their water parameters, personalities, and the size tank they should be in. Many sites on the web contradict other sites as to what fish can be together so do your own research.

Keep your chin up & make that tank something to be proud of! :good:
 
Thanks guys, you are making me feel better.

I'm going to be super careful with cleaning and take it slow getting more fish.

I dosed the minnows with various fish meds before letting them live with store-bought fish. They are quite peaceful guys, although I'm not entirely sure what species they are as I scooped them out of a ditch in Mississippi.

30 gallon looks good for now, they all seem lively and eating. I'll keep an eye on them and cross my fingers.

I have a 55 gallon as well with a cichlid, who is growing fast and I've never had any trouble with her or that tank...I think it's easier having a big tank with one fish rather than the smaller one with multiples.

I've decided it's more complicated to keep these guys than mammals...who knew!
 

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