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I dont want to do the math so I will just say sure 😂... Last time I saw them was Thursday at 9pm
So they went from 9 pm Thursday to 9 AM Friday (12 hours), plus 9 am Friday to 9 AM Saturday, today. (An additional 24 hours), correct? And it’ll been 4 hours since 9 am, so it’s been 40 hours since you’ve seen your fish.
 
So they went from 9 pm Thursday to 9 AM Friday (12 hours), plus 9 am Friday to 9 AM Saturday, today. (An additional 24 hours), correct? And it’ll been 4 hours since 9 am, so it’s been 40 hours since you’ve seen your fish.
Yah, I guess so... I'm going to give them today to come out and if they don't, tomorrow I'm gonna go find them
 
If you had a male/female pair and they had spawned it would be normal not to see the male as he'd be guarding the eggs. But the female would be out and about.

Since both are missing, you do need to find them.
 
Im still going to wait for today and then do a deep search tomorrow... I already tried searching yesterday so I'm going to wait before messing up the rocks any more
If you had a male/female pair and they had spawned it would be normal not to see the male as he'd be guarding the eggs. But the female would be out and about.

Since both are missing, you do need to find them.
 
You’ve already moved the rocks, what if you‘ve messed something up with their little caves? it’s been over 40 hours since you’ve seen them. It’s not a massive tank, I think that I agree that you should find them. @itiwhetu and @Essjay have both said that they think you should find them too.
 
You’ve already moved the rocks, what if you‘ve messed something up with their little caves? it’s been over 40 hours since you’ve seen them. It’s not a massive tank, I think that I agree that you should find them. @itiwhetu and @Essjay have both said that they think you should find them too.
Yah... later today I will
 
Well, I was not feeling well this morning at all... Stomach had some severe pains... Then our family went shopping for the super bowl and then I was helping my mom cook up some stuff... But I haven't seen them out yet.... Tomorrow (not in the morning because we have church) but later at around 1-2pm I will take everything out of the tank and search
So, have your fish shown up yet?
 
Well, I was not feeling well this morning at all... Stomach had some severe pains... Then our family went shopping for the super bowl and then I was helping my mom cook up some stuff... But I haven't seen them out yet.... Tomorrow (not in the morning because we have church) but later at around 1-2pm I will take everything out of the tank and search
Are you not just a little curious about what is going on?
 
Are you not just a little curious about what is going on?
Extremely... I want to dig right in there and see what is going on... It was just a painful and busy day
 
Do you know what frustrates me about this, is that if I hadn't seen one of my fish for a day I would go searching or at least sit in front of my tank until it shows up. What you are doing is playing on a fish forum site when you don't know if your fish are alive or dead, I personally couldn't do that.
 
Do you know what frustrates me about this, is that if I hadn't seen one of my fish for a day I would go searching or at least sit in front of my tank until it shows up. What you are doing is playing on a fish forum site when you don't know if your fish are alive or dead, I personally couldn't do that.
When I don't see my fish for more than an hour or two I start getting anxious. Not seeing my fish for over 40 hours would get me in a frenzy!
 
@Rocky998

I am trying to sort out the timeline here, please correct where needed

You lost a fish the week before last sometime, around 12 days ago.. Said that you have two fish that seem to act out aggressively and you thought they were why the fish died.

Last Tuesday you posted that you had bought another one on impulse due to the threatened legislation to replace the one lost the week before.

You have since lost that one due to what you assumed was stress but in all likelihood it was attacked by the existing two and not seen the existing two since Thursday.

First of all....you REALLY need to slow right down and find out exactly the cause of the original fish death and its replacement's death.

I don't know...maybe @itiwhetu can throw light on this.....but to me as someone who actually feels this species of fish are maybe a little beyond your ability (and I do not mean that in a nasty way but as in not everyone can handle the more complex and aggressive fish when still learning the art of fishkeeping). It sounds like the two aggressors "removed the weakest link" by force, ie bullied it to death. Quite possibly picking up a few war wounds along the way. Within days you replaced the dead fish with another of the same species, thus a "new" intruder to be dealt with. The two aggressors again "removed the weakest link" by force. And probably picked up yet more war wounds.

You could not find them, started ferreting about in the aquarium moving everything...and thus shifting their territory and disorientating them....which would stress them to the nines especially if eggs are involved. The stress of dealing with not one but two weaker fish/intruders in their back yard followed by you messing with their aquascape would be more than enough to kill fish.

I would have that spare aquarium up and running before you start taking the big one apart cos those two fish are probably going to be in a bad way when you find them.....if infact they have survived this experience at all.

If they have not emerged by tonight with the lights off.....they are either injured, deceased or just too terrified of this big human who keeps ferreting about in their home and are doing all they can to hide from you, even hiding in places that you would never dream of looking.
 

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