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[Scott MacAdam]

check my other post for more info

1 dead 2 on their way out can't find the other. this all happened within a short period. ammonia is perfect, ph is fine the source of the water is the same as all my other tanks, which are all fine, never had any water problems

what could it be?

Fins clamped, heavy breathing, 1 is twitching out a bit then swims a little then stops.

don't want to lose them all, what can I do

I'm doing a 50% water change now.

 

[saltwaterfanatic]

check my other post for more info

1 dead 2 on their way out can't find the other. this all happened within a short period. ammonia is perfect, ph is fine the source of the water is the same as all my other tanks, which are all fine, never had any water problems

what could it be?

Fins clamped, heavy breathing, 1 is twitching out a bit then swims a little then stops.

don't want to lost them all, what can I do

I'm doing a 50% water change now.

Dude take out that driftwood it is probably lowering the ph and they need a high ph

 

[Scott MacAdam]

thanks, but could it kill them that quick? we are talking under 48 hours here that the wood was in the tank.

I cleaned out that tank and put them into another (net hanging in, fish in net) but they are not going to make it. the only one that has a chance now I think is the large one but even he is starting to look not so good.

any more ideas?

 

[jacko32]

check my other post for more info

1 dead 2 on their way out can't find the other. this all happened within a short period. ammonia is perfect, ph is fine the source of the water is the same as all my other tanks, which are all fine, never had any water problems

what could it be?

Fins clamped, heavy breathing, 1 is twitching out a bit then swims a little then stops.

don't want to lost them all, what can I do

I'm doing a 50% water change now.

Dude take out that driftwood it is probably lowering the ph and they need a high ph

at the speed driftwood lowers the pH it wont affect the fish at all
its more likely bacterial

 

[Scott MacAdam]

what do you think is the best option here. Change out all the water in the new tank and leave them in there or just leave them netted in the tank with my Krib... (as the currently are, water stats are the same)

suggestions?

 

[jacko32]

what do you think is the best option here. Change out all the water in the new tank and leave them in there or just leave them netted in the tank with my Krib... (as the currently are, water stats are the same)

suggestions?

more than likely the stress will finish them off now unfortunately
if you only had them 48hours they more than likely were harbouring the bacterial infection when you got them and the stress of catching bagging and acclimatizing has brought it out maybe someone else can help you more
its unlikely the driftwood had anything to do with it

did you find out what the water stats were where you bought the fish?

 

[Scott MacAdam]

I did not...... although I now wish I did.

I'd assume they are all going to die but in case one DOES live, what should I do with it. Would it be ok with the kribeness of should I tear apart the other tank and hope that it will be fine the next time I set it up (in case it had to do with some form of contamination)

 

[jacko32]

I did not...... although I now wish I did.

I'd assume they are all going to die but in case one DOES live, what should I do with it. Would it be ok with the kribeness of should I tear apart the other tank and hope that it will be fine the next time I set it up (in case it had to do with some form of contamination)

i would put it back in the tank you have kept them in and just do 50% water changes daily dont put them in with the krib

 

[Scott MacAdam]

I assumed so...

they are actually looking better, fins are unclamped but their breathing is still really heavy. They are fighting for balance less now that they are in the net (in the krib's tank)

I can only hope for here on in

Thanks for the speedy replies.

~Scott MacAdam

 

[kiriyama]

Just read this , very sorry for your loss, bloody horrible thing to happen, especially after all the trouble ou went to get them, don't think the wood would lower pH so drastically, I have a piece of Mopani in there for my plec but I would think that the rocks and coral gravel in the filter would buffer pH.
On a smiliar note I lost a Juli , 2 seem to have paired up on the right hand side and the odd one on the left, don't know if he was ill,stressed,bullied but I returned from work for a few hours to find 6 Multis ganging up on him while he wriggled about unable to defend himself, I am none the wiser why this happened so have now made arrangments to rehome the remaining pair. Really sorry to hear what has happened.........

 

[Scott MacAdam]

Update

they were starting to do better in the net in the krib tank so I was thinking it had something to do with the water. The net was small and the krib was picking at them if I didn't stay by the tank to fend him off so I took all the water out of the multi's tank and dumped it, then I took about half the water from the krib's tank and put it into the multi's tank.

So I put the multis back in their tank and I left the filter off. I think the big one will be fine, he swam right for a shell and went in. The smaller ones both stayed out and looked pretty bad. before I went to bed I put shells and rocks around them to protect them from any filter flow and turned it on to help move some oxygen around the tank.

In the morning the big one was out of his shell and looks ok, one of the smaller ones was on the other side of the tank and one was on its side in a shell (still where it was last night but not looking any better) breathing heavy, on its side.

The thing here is that none of them are swimming around, they are all just sitting on the bottom of the tank (one laying on its side) does that help diagnose what could be happening here?

I'm lost here but I'm going to do everything I can to keep them alive. If there is anything you think I can do please keep me posted.

 

[jacko32]

Update

they were starting to do better in the net in the krib tank so I was thinking it had something to do with the water. The net was small and the krib was picking at them if I didn't stay by the tank to fend him off so I took all the water out of the multi's tank and dumped it, then I took about half the water from the krib's tank and put it into the multi's tank.

So I put the multis back in their tank and I left the filter off. I think the big one will be fine, he swam right for a shell and went in. The smaller ones both stayed out and looked pretty bad. before I went to bed I put shells and rocks around them to protect them from any filter flow and turned it on to help move some oxygen around the tank.

In the morning the big one was out of his shell and looks ok, one of the smaller ones was on the other side of the tank and one was on its side in a shell (still where it was last night but not looking any better) breathing heavy, on its side.

The thing here is that none of them are swimming around, they are all just sitting on the bottom of the tank (one laying on its side) does that help diagnose what could be happening here?

I'm lost here but I'm going to do everything I can to keep them alive. If there is anything you think I can do please keep me posted.

can you post up some pics
just keep doing the large water changes

 

[Scott MacAdam]

update:

found another dead just now. this particular one made it almost 24hours on its side breathing heavy but it just didn't get any better like the others. There was one other fish that was doing quite well but it has disappeared. I can only find the largest fish now (but there should be 2 left) I checked all the shells and there is only shells and sand. it didn't jump out, I checked all around the tank and it didn't get sucked up into the filter because I have it covered with a sponge. I'm lost.....

 

[ashemely]

So sorry to hear about your troubles. The only thing I can think of is the water quality isn't good. I trust you that your ammonia and nitrite are at zero and that you're nitrate isn't too high. My only concern is the numbers your PH and water hardness are sitting at.

As for your lost fish, it is most likely hiding in a shell, the fish can really get themselves up in them.

 

[kiriyama]

I'd second what ashemely said about hiding in the shells, I nearly lost a Multi when I removed some shells to clean up to pass on to someone, the little fellow/girl must have been in there a good ten minutes in a basin when I noticed it flop out, quickly returned it to the tank and luckily no probs, really sorry to hear about this, don't know what else to suggest other than water quality issue, did you use sme mature media from another filter? How long has the 10 gallon been up and running?