I have a nine year old male Rainbow cichlid that is 4 inches long and has swim bladder and is at the bottom of the tank in a curve. He has been like this for two days. Reluctantly i feel that it is time to put him out of his misery. Please could someone give me some advice as the kindest way. He deserves to end his life painlessly. I want to make the difficult decision in the next few hours. Thank you
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Boiling water awful sorry.
You could hit him on the head which isn't for everyone.
Cloves oil.
I find this method the best.
Bucket of cold water and add ice cubes till the water freezing cold, add the fish it should take about 30 seconds but leave the fish in a while
to make sure its passed on.
Written by steelhealr.
This is what I choose to do with my fish and my comments are only placed here as opinion. This is a heated topic. I choose based on my knowledge from my training:
Oil of cloves is a topical anethestic and was used in the past to treat toothaches. Lidocaine (like at the dentist's office is a topical anesthetic as well). When we operate on people we really want to achieve 2 things, analgesia and anesthesia, that is, relief of pain and unconsciousness. IMO, when a fish is immersed in oil of cloves, it is essentially 'topically anesthetized', paralyzed, but, I am NOT convinced that the fish is unconscious.....none of us will really know for sure. We don't know if the oil of cloves causes stinging to the mucus membranes, eyes, etc on initial contact nor if the fish is motionless, painless but aware.
Extreme cold is an anesthetic. When applied to skin, you can actually cut the skin and feel no pain. Cold also can cause rapid unconsciousness. In fact, hypothermia is reported to cause a state of euphoria and clouding of consciousness. Fish, at least most of the types that we keep (tropical), are extremely small and rapid immersion in extreme cold water, in my opinion, causes rapid pain relief and rapid unconsciousness. I have never seen any of my fish shows signs of what I consider suffering. They stop moving immediately and appear lifeless. Some have stated that since fish are ectothermic, this doesn't apply....perhaps in cold water fish I would agree.
I choose to euthanize my fish this way, rather than oil of cloves. One must either make an educated decision for themselves, or, choose what is currently accepted by the masses as what is humane.
Added: although I would never use blunt force to euthanize my fish, nor advocate it, one fact is for sure: death is instantaneous
SH
You could hit him on the head which isn't for everyone.
Cloves oil.
I find this method the best.
Bucket of cold water and add ice cubes till the water freezing cold, add the fish it should take about 30 seconds but leave the fish in a while
to make sure its passed on.
Written by steelhealr.
This is what I choose to do with my fish and my comments are only placed here as opinion. This is a heated topic. I choose based on my knowledge from my training:
Oil of cloves is a topical anethestic and was used in the past to treat toothaches. Lidocaine (like at the dentist's office is a topical anesthetic as well). When we operate on people we really want to achieve 2 things, analgesia and anesthesia, that is, relief of pain and unconsciousness. IMO, when a fish is immersed in oil of cloves, it is essentially 'topically anesthetized', paralyzed, but, I am NOT convinced that the fish is unconscious.....none of us will really know for sure. We don't know if the oil of cloves causes stinging to the mucus membranes, eyes, etc on initial contact nor if the fish is motionless, painless but aware.
Extreme cold is an anesthetic. When applied to skin, you can actually cut the skin and feel no pain. Cold also can cause rapid unconsciousness. In fact, hypothermia is reported to cause a state of euphoria and clouding of consciousness. Fish, at least most of the types that we keep (tropical), are extremely small and rapid immersion in extreme cold water, in my opinion, causes rapid pain relief and rapid unconsciousness. I have never seen any of my fish shows signs of what I consider suffering. They stop moving immediately and appear lifeless. Some have stated that since fish are ectothermic, this doesn't apply....perhaps in cold water fish I would agree.
I choose to euthanize my fish this way, rather than oil of cloves. One must either make an educated decision for themselves, or, choose what is currently accepted by the masses as what is humane.
Added: although I would never use blunt force to euthanize my fish, nor advocate it, one fact is for sure: death is instantaneous
SH
drobbyb
Bowhead
Well put. I think that statement should be stickied.
Drobbyb it's sort of pinned here under euthanasia.
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