Help with fritz slime out.

[Country joe]

Hi, I have a strain of Cyanobacteria, sent away for slime out, instructions are to remove carbon filters, and ion exchange resins, I did leave the green juwel nitrax, nitrate remover sponge, as I think it will hold bacteria, its been in since 23rd March.
I dosed the tank to instructions yesterday, and today there seems no difference, it still has another 24 hours to go, should I have taken the nitrate remover sponge out, and if yes would losing the bacteria, be fatal for my fish, as it is quite a new tank. I thought the green type slime would have been turning brown by now but there appears to be no difference.

 

[MaloK]

Fritz recommends repeating the treatment as necessary, while monitoring the tank. Slime Out does not inhibit nitrifying bacteria, and will not impact the biofilter.

Day 1-2: You may not see a noticeable difference yet.
Day 3-5: The cyanobacteria should start to turn a reddish-brown color and begin to die off.
Day 7-10: The cyanobacteria should be mostly gone.

Perform a 25% water change after 48 hours of each treatment.

 

[Country joe]

Fritz recommends repeating the treatment as necessary, while monitoring the tank. Slime Out does not inhibit nitrifying bacteria, and will not impact the biofilter.

Day 1-2: You may not see a noticeable difference yet.
Day 3-5: The cyanobacteria should start to turn a reddish-brown color and begin to die off.
Day 7-10: The cyanobacteria should be mostly gone.

Perform a 25% water change after 48 hours of each treatment.

Thanks for that it's appreciated

 

[TwoTankAmin]

I habe not had to battle BGA in many years, However, when I had an invasion in one tank it was a war for a while until I came up with my triple threat treatment,
1. Manually remove as musch as possible.
2. Ad one dose of an antibiotic, I thing I used EM aka maracyn.
3. Blackout the tank for several days and stop feeding during that time.

Afterwards, I did a big water change and vac. I also rinsed out the filter media. If I remeber it all I think I increased the amount of floss I had in the filters to help remove the dead BGA etc. That did the trick for me. I think I may also have done some plant pruning to help improve circulation. I tend to let my planted tanks become close to Impenetrable aquatic jungles at times which did not help in erms of getting the BGA..

 

[Essjay]

Most people find the green sponge doesn't do what it says, and it's best to regard that as a blue sponge. It should not affect any treatment added to a tank.

Carbon, both granules and impregnated in a sponge, will affect them. So will zeolite which is found in some filters.
Ion exchange resins are things like API Nitra-Zorb and API water softener pillow.

 

[Country joe]

Good have never used carbon or zeolite

 

[Fishfunn]

I habe not had to battle BGA in many years, However, when I had an invasion in one tank it was a war for a while until I came up with my triple threat treatment,
1. Manually remove as musch as possible.
2. Ad one dose of an antibiotic, I thing I used EM aka maracyn.
3. Blackout the tank for several days and stop feeding during that time.

Yes I successfully battled the bga curse too.
I used one dose of erythromycin (maracyn) and manually removed and vacuumed out the gravel. I also had to cut back on the light intensity that was causing my issue.

 

[Essjay]

@Country joe Does the packaging say what the ingredients are? The SDS just says 'proprietary ingredients' which means they won't say as they want to keep it secret. If it's an antibiotic, those are 'illegal' in the UK without prescription.

 

[Country joe]

@Country joe Does the packaging say what the ingredients are? The SDS just says 'proprietary ingredients' which means they won't say as they want to keep it secret. If it's an antibiotic, those are 'illegal' in the UK without prescription.

You are right no ingredients on the box, I did email before I used it, how safe it was, the replied it was safe for fish and plants, and also Bacteria.

 

[Essjay]

Safe for bacteria usually means it either not an antibiotic or it's an antibiotic of the wrong type to kill filter bacteria. That's the danger with buying products from countries where antibiotics can be bought over the counter.




[Example - back about 12 years ago I had an infection in my skin. The doctor prescribed an antibiotic which is normally prescribed for skin infections but it did nothing, so she took a swab and sent it to the lab. This infection turned out to be, unusually, an anaerobic bacterium so she prescribed a different antibiotic which cleared it up quickly]

 

[Country joe]

I used it 4 days ago and touch wood fish appear fine, I wondered when I bought it that nobody seemed to sell it in the UK. I don't know if they sell products that would get rid of this bacteria in UK. I just hope I've not killed off bacteria.im a bit worried.

 

[Naughts]

I wondered when I bought it that nobody seemed to sell it in the UK.

It's an algicide/ biocide - many biocides are restricted by legislation in the UK.
You need to treat the cause (organics/ nutrients), not just the symptoms, to keep it at bay. Stop fertilising, reduce feeding, and increase water changes and cleaning. Cyanobacteria is a lot of hard work and unfortunately there is no quick fix.

 

[Country joe]

It's an algicide/ biocide - many biocides are restricted by legislation in the UK.
You need to treat the cause (organics/ nutrients), not just the symptoms, to keep it at bay. Stop fertilising, reduce feeding, and increase water changes and cleaning. Cyanobacteria is a lot of hard work and unfortunately there is no quick fix.

Hi I don't over feed.i have stopped fertiliser. I do a 25% water change weekly, and I clean,
Maybe it was because its a new tank I was struck.

 

[Country joe]

I forgot to say, when I had the outbreak it was half way through my cycling, so I had no fish just plants.

 

[Fishfunn]

Safe for bacteria usually means it either not an antibiotic or it's an antibiotic of the wrong type to kill filter bacteria. That's the danger with buying products from countries where antibiotics can be bought over the counter.




[Example - back about 12 years ago I had an infection in my skin. The doctor prescribed an antibiotic which is normally prescribed for skin infections but it did nothing, so she took a swab and sent it to the lab. This infection turned out to be, unusually, an anaerobic bacterium so she prescribed a different antibiotic which cleared it up quickly]

Fritz who makes Maracyn (erythromycin) states that it will not hurt nitrification bacteria. I am very skeptical when it come to vague marketing language that a company uses to promote their products. It all about sales to them.

• Will the addition of beneficial bacteria interfere with the Maracyn?
  No, the introduction of nitrifying bacteria will not interfere with the Maracyn, but you are correct that the antiobiotics will negatively affect the nitrifiers.We get very few complaints about ammonia spikes from using these meds, but the combination of cold weather and other factors may be causing some higher than normal ammonia spikes as well. You may want to consider a chemical ammonia remover, like Fritz ACCR to help alleviate the temporary ammonia spike as well.
  
  

• FAQ: Will using Seachem KanaPlex™ kill off my beneficial bacteria colonies?​

  No, it will not. Fully cycled aquariums typically make it through treatment with KanaPlex™ with no impact on the beneficial bacteria colonies at all.
  It is worth mentioning, though, that KanaPlex™ (like most medications) will slow down the growth of new beneficial bacteria colonies.