Help With C. Plaeteus
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ok so i've never had probs with the cories ever and he's floating upside down, seriously thought he was dead a few minutes ago and moved the net in to get him, then he flips over and swims away like nothings wrong...it might be too late since i don't think any fish stores are open but would like to know if anybody has any ideas....
neon_platy
Fish Crazy
Wilder,
Thanks I almost didn't recognize your post without the hampster in it hehehe I just changed the water and it shouldn't have been an issue since every time I had tested that tank it was 0 on the ammonia tab. As for Nitrite/Nitrate, I don't know since I haven't been able to find a tester at the store yet. I'm actually going to one at my work today at lunch near here so maybe they'll have that and bacterial treatment. PH I can test when I get home....but I think I want to do another water change to be safe then add the anti-bacterial meds. Also, he was not at the surface this morning at all and not floating like last night...so unless it's dead in the cave he must be better than last night. I'll update later once I get home.
Thanks,
Brian
Thanks I almost didn't recognize your post without the hampster in it hehehe I just changed the water and it shouldn't have been an issue since every time I had tested that tank it was 0 on the ammonia tab. As for Nitrite/Nitrate, I don't know since I haven't been able to find a tester at the store yet. I'm actually going to one at my work today at lunch near here so maybe they'll have that and bacterial treatment. PH I can test when I get home....but I think I want to do another water change to be safe then add the anti-bacterial meds. Also, he was not at the surface this morning at all and not floating like last night...so unless it's dead in the cave he must be better than last night. I'll update later once I get home.
Thanks,
Brian
They can have breathing problems with bacterial infections, but i would get your water tested as him trying to be a the top is not normal cory behaviour, does he lay to one side it sounds like swim bladder, but i would check for parasites, but cory are not prone to whitespot, more prone to bacterial infections.
Not the writer of this information below.
Swim Bladder Disorder
The Swim bladder is a gas-filled sac located inside the fish’s body cavity just above most of the other internal organs. This sac is what gives the fish buoyancy and controls equilibrium. The amount of gas in this sac changes as the fish rises and sinks in the water, enabling it to swim, hover and move in the water. Without the use of the Swim-bladder organ a fish is unable to control it's own movements.
Symptoms:
Fish with a swim bladder disorder appear to have an abnormal swimming pattern, usually with their tail end up. They also appear to have difficulty maintaining equilibrium. They may even float upside down or appear to be stuck at the surface of the water, being unable to swim down, or they may lie on the bottom, unable to rise. Fish with a swim bladder disorder will continue to try and feed, showing a normal appetite.
Cause:
The most common cause of swim bladder disorders is improper diet. An improper diet can lead to intestinal gas or intestinal blockages. Intestinal blockages can irritate the bowel, giving bacteria or other parasites an entry point where they can then cause damage to the swim bladder. Swim bladder disorders are most common in the larger, deep-bodied varieties of Goldfish. Fish also fed a lot of dried foods, especially pellets, are most susceptible. This condition is frequently observed in the later stages of Malawi Bloat, which is primarily due to an improper diet as well and intestinal irritation.
Treatment:
Because this disorder is due principally to an improper diet, a change in their feeding needs to be made. Dried foods with lots of protein should be kept to a minimum. Pellets and other dense foods should be soaked prior to feeding or completely eliminated from their diet. Foods with lots of fiber should be introduced, such as zucchini, squash, spinach, romaine lettuce, peas, and grated carrots. If you suspect that the fish is victim to a bacterial infection, treat the fish with a medicated food.
Not the writer of this information below.
Swim Bladder Disorder
The Swim bladder is a gas-filled sac located inside the fish’s body cavity just above most of the other internal organs. This sac is what gives the fish buoyancy and controls equilibrium. The amount of gas in this sac changes as the fish rises and sinks in the water, enabling it to swim, hover and move in the water. Without the use of the Swim-bladder organ a fish is unable to control it's own movements.
Symptoms:
Fish with a swim bladder disorder appear to have an abnormal swimming pattern, usually with their tail end up. They also appear to have difficulty maintaining equilibrium. They may even float upside down or appear to be stuck at the surface of the water, being unable to swim down, or they may lie on the bottom, unable to rise. Fish with a swim bladder disorder will continue to try and feed, showing a normal appetite.
Cause:
The most common cause of swim bladder disorders is improper diet. An improper diet can lead to intestinal gas or intestinal blockages. Intestinal blockages can irritate the bowel, giving bacteria or other parasites an entry point where they can then cause damage to the swim bladder. Swim bladder disorders are most common in the larger, deep-bodied varieties of Goldfish. Fish also fed a lot of dried foods, especially pellets, are most susceptible. This condition is frequently observed in the later stages of Malawi Bloat, which is primarily due to an improper diet as well and intestinal irritation.
Treatment:
Because this disorder is due principally to an improper diet, a change in their feeding needs to be made. Dried foods with lots of protein should be kept to a minimum. Pellets and other dense foods should be soaked prior to feeding or completely eliminated from their diet. Foods with lots of fiber should be introduced, such as zucchini, squash, spinach, romaine lettuce, peas, and grated carrots. If you suspect that the fish is victim to a bacterial infection, treat the fish with a medicated food.
neon_platy
Fish Crazy
Wilder,
see the hampster's back eheheh....Anyway, thanks for the post, that's what I thought it was since I remembered reading before about odd swiming = swim bladder infection / bacterial problem as you stated. The way it progressed from swimming normal to slightly on the side, to upside down kinda made me think that...i went out and bought the anti bacterial medicine today and when i got home jsut as i saw this mornign that cory wasn't at the top
which of course worried me...i i cleaned the tank as i figured it would be best to change water, even though i did it sunday night then administer the medicine...anyway, no matter what i couldn't find the cory...my other 3 were same as always swimming all over the place, headin to the top for air then hiding while i cleaned...then it turned into a body hunt as i feared the worst then i found the poor lil guy at the bottom 
Like you said not ICH and I checked his body to to be sure, there were no marks or anything, just typical decay from being in the tank while i was at work anyway I finished cleaning and put the medicine in just to be safe. As I read your article it said improper diet and i know the little aeneuses i have love the little pellet food, but should there be something else i should be giving to them? they get corn and pea left overs from time to time, if my fem platy doesn't grab it all. I just want to see what i can add to their diet to help prevent this again. Also, as another side note instead of adding a new post, I bought a test kit that tests for nitrate, nitrite which were both 0 or safe, total hardness, alkalinity, and pH....Is there a place to find or can you tell me, the other 3 which are best, I remember the pH was more toward Alkaline section, alkalinity was obviously in the high ideal section, and i don't remember but i would bet the hardness of my water is hard as our water is crap from the faucet, i drink it but it's probably more hard water than other suburbs near me. Also, do you think it's good to keep medicating my cory tank since I just want to be safe in case there is bacteria that killed my Pleateus, I'd like to be safe and make sure my toehrs don't go his way ()
see the hampster's back eheheh....Anyway, thanks for the post, that's what I thought it was since I remembered reading before about odd swiming = swim bladder infection / bacterial problem as you stated. The way it progressed from swimming normal to slightly on the side, to upside down kinda made me think that...i went out and bought the anti bacterial medicine today and when i got home jsut as i saw this mornign that cory wasn't at the top
which of course worried me...i i cleaned the tank as i figured it would be best to change water, even though i did it sunday night then administer the medicine...anyway, no matter what i couldn't find the cory...my other 3 were same as always swimming all over the place, headin to the top for air then hiding while i cleaned...then it turned into a body hunt as i feared the worst then i found the poor lil guy at the bottom Like you said not ICH and I checked his body to to be sure, there were no marks or anything, just typical decay from being in the tank while i was at work anyway I finished cleaning and put the medicine in just to be safe. As I read your article it said improper diet and i know the little aeneuses i have love the little pellet food, but should there be something else i should be giving to them? they get corn and pea left overs from time to time, if my fem platy doesn't grab it all. I just want to see what i can add to their diet to help prevent this again. Also, as another side note instead of adding a new post, I bought a test kit that tests for nitrate, nitrite which were both 0 or safe, total hardness, alkalinity, and pH....Is there a place to find or can you tell me, the other 3 which are best, I remember the pH was more toward Alkaline section, alkalinity was obviously in the high ideal section, and i don't remember but i would bet the hardness of my water is hard as our water is crap from the faucet, i drink it but it's probably more hard water than other suburbs near me. Also, do you think it's good to keep medicating my cory tank since I just want to be safe in case there is bacteria that killed my Pleateus, I'd like to be safe and make sure my toehrs don't go his way ()
If you keep bottom dwellers like corys and plecs i maintain my tank by doing two gravel vacs a week, as they soon can get bacterial problems due to feeding on food at the bottom that has gone off.
I feed my cory a variety of food from, frozen bloodworms, brimestrimp, krill, and daphnia, plus tubilex worn freezedried, and veg like peas, carrots, broc, sproats, plus they like other foods like prawns.
I feed my cory a variety of food from, frozen bloodworms, brimestrimp, krill, and daphnia, plus tubilex worn freezedried, and veg like peas, carrots, broc, sproats, plus they like other foods like prawns.
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