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Tank size:29 gallon, 10 gallon, 5 gallon hospital tank.
pH:8.2
ammonia:0
nitrite:0
nitrate: less than 5
kH:unknown
gH:unknown
tank temp:78-80
Fish Symptoms: We lost two tiger barbs over a month long period from emaciation, sunken belly no other visible symptoms on fish. We treated both entire tanks with jungle parasite clear and jungle fungus clear to be safe.
Recently following a water change I noticed two of my tiger barbs with gaping open mouths. They do not seem to have any other symptoms though one was definitely more ill than the other and was initially hanging at the surface like it needed oxygen. My tank is overfiltered with a penguin biowheel and an aquaclear filter both for 50 gallon tanks. I use prime to condition water which treats cholorine, chloramine, and heavy metals and also binds ammonia.
I removed the two ill tiger barbs to a 5 gallon hospital tank and treated with tetracycline for the recommended period. In the beginning of treatment the very ill tiger barb developed a bubble of fluid over it's eyes in addition to the gaping mouth. Not sure if this is pop eye. Toward the end of treatment they were both looking improved, but not 100% better. I decided to follow up with maracyn and maracyn two. This morning day 2 of treatment they both look 100% better although there is still some fluid over the eyes on one of the barbs.
However I notice that one of my neon tetra's now has the same gaping mouth though he looks far worse than the tigers did initially his mouth seems to be deteriorating or disintegrating. He was added to the hospital tank this morning. Hopefully he will recover quickly as well.
Now my main concern at this point is that although my treatment is working on the ill fish, I'm still not 100% certain what they have. I'm leaning torward gill disease or maybe mouth rot, and pop eye by the descriptions on the maracyn and maracyn two which treats both gill disease and pop eye, not sure about mouth rot.
Since I have had three fish come down with this but the others are swimming normally, happy, healthy and appear to be doing well should I treat my two main tanks (29 and 10 gallon) or just separate fish if they become ill and treat?
Volume and Frequency of water changes: 50% once a week, more often in the hospital tank due to size
Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: prime used at water change in all tanks, currently using maracyn and maracyn two in hospital tank.
Tank inhabitants: 29 gallon usually has 3 yo yo loaches, and 6 tiger barbs (two are removed for treatment to hospital tank) our 10 gallon usually has 8 cherry barbs and 5 neon tetras (one neon tetra is removed to hospital tank for treatment)
Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): The two ill tiger barbs are new additions and were not quarantined (will definitely be quarantining in the future) The 10 gallon tank has had one of my tiger barbs in it on occasion due to aggression which probably resulted in the tetra getting this illness.
Exposure to chemicals: ammonia .25 from tap use prime to bind it to ammonium. Biological filter usually brings this down to 0. Had some mini cycle type issues following the use of the fungus clear and parasite clear. Good at the moment in the 29 gallon and mini cycle in the 10 gallon on and off, adding filter material from 29 and doing frequent water changes 50 % daily if needed, Checking parameters often to be safe.
Digital photo: Tried to get one but it did not come out clear enough to see problem
Tank size:29 gallon, 10 gallon, 5 gallon hospital tank.
pH:8.2
ammonia:0
nitrite:0
nitrate: less than 5
kH:unknown
gH:unknown
tank temp:78-80
Fish Symptoms: We lost two tiger barbs over a month long period from emaciation, sunken belly no other visible symptoms on fish. We treated both entire tanks with jungle parasite clear and jungle fungus clear to be safe.
Recently following a water change I noticed two of my tiger barbs with gaping open mouths. They do not seem to have any other symptoms though one was definitely more ill than the other and was initially hanging at the surface like it needed oxygen. My tank is overfiltered with a penguin biowheel and an aquaclear filter both for 50 gallon tanks. I use prime to condition water which treats cholorine, chloramine, and heavy metals and also binds ammonia.
I removed the two ill tiger barbs to a 5 gallon hospital tank and treated with tetracycline for the recommended period. In the beginning of treatment the very ill tiger barb developed a bubble of fluid over it's eyes in addition to the gaping mouth. Not sure if this is pop eye. Toward the end of treatment they were both looking improved, but not 100% better. I decided to follow up with maracyn and maracyn two. This morning day 2 of treatment they both look 100% better although there is still some fluid over the eyes on one of the barbs.
However I notice that one of my neon tetra's now has the same gaping mouth though he looks far worse than the tigers did initially his mouth seems to be deteriorating or disintegrating. He was added to the hospital tank this morning. Hopefully he will recover quickly as well.
Now my main concern at this point is that although my treatment is working on the ill fish, I'm still not 100% certain what they have. I'm leaning torward gill disease or maybe mouth rot, and pop eye by the descriptions on the maracyn and maracyn two which treats both gill disease and pop eye, not sure about mouth rot.
Since I have had three fish come down with this but the others are swimming normally, happy, healthy and appear to be doing well should I treat my two main tanks (29 and 10 gallon) or just separate fish if they become ill and treat?
Volume and Frequency of water changes: 50% once a week, more often in the hospital tank due to size
Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: prime used at water change in all tanks, currently using maracyn and maracyn two in hospital tank.
Tank inhabitants: 29 gallon usually has 3 yo yo loaches, and 6 tiger barbs (two are removed for treatment to hospital tank) our 10 gallon usually has 8 cherry barbs and 5 neon tetras (one neon tetra is removed to hospital tank for treatment)
Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): The two ill tiger barbs are new additions and were not quarantined (will definitely be quarantining in the future) The 10 gallon tank has had one of my tiger barbs in it on occasion due to aggression which probably resulted in the tetra getting this illness.
Exposure to chemicals: ammonia .25 from tap use prime to bind it to ammonium. Biological filter usually brings this down to 0. Had some mini cycle type issues following the use of the fungus clear and parasite clear. Good at the moment in the 29 gallon and mini cycle in the 10 gallon on and off, adding filter material from 29 and doing frequent water changes 50 % daily if needed, Checking parameters often to be safe.
Digital photo: Tried to get one but it did not come out clear enough to see problem
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