Help Me Save My Fishies?

[noobWITHaPROBLEM]

I started a new tank and introduced fish on the same day.... I have done this before with no issues... This time high nitrite and ammonia which I have been taking care of with water changes... Anyways I thought it was ich at first but now my congo tetras have a white film between the eye and dorsal fin. kind of like a thick filmy white skin. stopped eating not really rubbing on things but still acting weird.

My albino pleco has an opposite problem no white on him but now around his mouth is all red underbelly lips and front of face... i have now done a 50% water change and i want to treat them but i dont know what to treat for!!! please help..... it gets worse by the day and i have been researching for hours and cant find anything.
Tank has been runing now for about 2 weeks
specs:
29 gallon long
heating at 80 but raised temp to 82 today to kill bacteria
Fish:
2 Congo Tetras
6 Bleeding heart tetras
2 Glass catfish
1 Albino pleco
3 Bolivian rams
1 Siamese fighting fish - aka - Betta

Plants:
1 Java fern
2 Lace java ferns
Java moss (not much)
and one other little plant im unsure of as my friend bought it for me.

 

[the_lock_man]

BLimey, you were lucky before then.

Not sure on the film on the tetras, but red streaks on the plec shouts ammonia poisoning to me, as my first instinct. A photo would help, though.

With your water changes, what level are you keeping the ammonia and nitrite down to?

 

[noobWITHaPROBLEM]

also i have been doing daily water tests. ammonia and nitrite and ph were all a little high but now ammonia has dropped to normal and with 50% change all are ok right now will re-test in a few hours and post update. I am thinking of trying melafix and or aquarium salt?

currently ammonia and nitrite are 0 but will probably climb so retesting soon. im thinking ammonia burn on that poor pleco too i have some really good pics i took of them but it was with my iphone and it wont let me upload the images as they are too big...

 

[noobWITHaPROBLEM]

going to treat for ammonia poisoning and add aquarium salt. ----- SALT ----- good or bad idea? half or full dose???

 

[the_lock_man]

going to treat for ammonia poisoning and add aquarium salt. ----- SALT ----- good or bad idea? half or full dose???

The only real treatment that I know of for ammonia poisoning is clean water.

Salt is a bad idea, the plec especially is very intolerant of salt.

 

[noobWITHaPROBLEM]

is the pleco contagious? if not i can move him to my other tank which has ben running for 6 months and is very stable and then i can use the salt to protect the healthy fish in the sick tank

 

[the_lock_man]

If it is ammonia poisoning, then no it's not contagious, for the same reason as if you get bitten by a rattlesnake, you aren't contagious either. It's not a disease, caused by a bacteria or parasite, it is down to poor water quality.

I personally don't like salt in the freshwater aquarium - if freshwater fish needed salt, they'd live in the sea. That said, obviously salt can be used to treat whitespot - but you don't know what this is. Don't treat until you know what the problem is.

 

[noobWITHaPROBLEM]

If it is ammonia poisoning, then no it's not contagious, for the same reason as if you get bitten by a rattlesnake, you aren't contagious either. It's not a disease, caused by a bacteria or parasite, it is down to poor water quality.

I personally don't like salt in the freshwater aquarium - if freshwater fish needed salt, they'd live in the sea. That said, obviously salt can be used to treat whitespot - but you don't know what this is. Don't treat until you know what the problem is.

the lady at the fish store said ammonia burn and told me these products would help my fish and its because i didnt cycle my tank (i know...) so im going to move the pleco and start treating both tanks. hopefully this helps... im still concerned about that congo. im conviced i can save the pleco by doing this but the syptoms on the congo are so different i dont know what to do with her... shes not eating ( 2 or 3 days ) and that white has spread considerably and i can see it starting on her eye... the pictures i uploaded were taken today... any thought on my poor girl?

she is also breathing incredibly fast.... almost hyperventilating... has her fing clamped up to her body and all in all acting very strange

 

[the_lock_man]

I can't help on the COngo - I've never seen that at all.

What product was recommended for ammonia burn? Like I said, as far as I'm aware, the best treatment is clean water.

 

[noobWITHaPROBLEM]

something like ammo lock i think my boyfriend picked it up for me so im unsure of what it is ill post it as soon as i know. i think its a water treatment instead of a fish treatment to just kill ammonia. so what your basically saying is if i move the pleco to the stable tank he should technically get better on his own just by having stable water?

he is my favorite fish and ive had him for a long time so he is my main concern

 

[the_lock_man]

He'll be a lot happier in clean water.

 

[noobWITHaPROBLEM]

He'll be a lot happier in clean water.

it is Azithromycin
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on top of all of these problems i also had 3 pregnant platty's the other day....
i had 8 all together in my good tank 3 pregnant dalmation platys + one dalmation male and also 3 female rainbow platties and one male of the same....
all of a sudden i was missing 3 pregnant dalmation females.. i found one dead on the bottom with its stomach eaten out. other two are nowhere to be found.... any ideas?

 

[shi24137]

Azithromycin For a tank? Why would they tell you to put a HUMAN antibiotic in a fish tank? If you put that in your tanks it could explain the attack....

 

[colleen0309]

your rams won't like the salt either. don't use it. What are your water parameters? Actual numbers. If it was me, I would do a 90% water change asap. The congo tetra could be ammonia problems also. And if you think it is a bacterial problem, do not raise the temp. You raise the temp for parasites, it speeds up their life cycle.

 

[noobWITHaPROBLEM]

haha its the other mycin my bad..