Happiness And Questions! Please Answer...

[CBBP]

First off just let me say that my plants for the fancy goldfish tank arrived and they are great!! My 10000k lights form petsmart have been shipped and all is well. now then... I have some questions..

I am about to order form Morgan.. this is what I need right?

CSM+B Plantex 1 lb

Potassium Sulfate 1 lb.

Potassium Nitrate 1 lb.

that is it for ferts right? should I order more pounds?

Then there is the

DIY yeast CO2 system I need to make.
I was thinking… can I have 3 Hagen type ladders all connected on one large container with three times the yeast and sugar and water? And can it sit below the tank and have anti-siphon valves?

So basically 1 ½ teaspoon of yeast and 3 cups of sugar? All leading to three different ladders?

If I can do this, what would be a good container? How much space should it have between the water and top of the container to stop the bubbles from getting into the tube?

Could I place a thing on the tube that would catch any liquid like a drain trap?

Also, should I place aeration around my canister filter intake to get ride of carbonic acid? It will ruin my O-rings.

This is my current Idea.

Basically have a big container, what I don't know, with three times the material of a regular Hagen. Have a line run out of the top into an up right bottle, the gas will pass through any liquid that might but should get into the tubing. The gas will continue up into the tubing but the heavy alcohol will not. Then it will split off into 3 lines. Each going to a different ladder. The ladders diffuser CO2 and the filter pulls the co2 rich water over the aquarium and then through the bubble wall. The bubble wall takes out some co2 and carbonic acid (so my O-rings don’t die) and then shoots the semi reduced co2 water out over the rest of the aquarium. Sound good?

Just because you will want to know anyway. I will have 3 WPG at 10k Kelvin soon and will be ordering the ferts from Morgan (as you can see). The tank is heavily planted and I will have pictures up soon.

Is this good or bad?

 

[NAL]

Hi

You might want to add a source of phosphate to that list of ferts, although if you're fertilising a tank with gold fish in it you might not need to add too much nitrate and phosphate-those fish will create a lot of waste anyway.

Nick

 

[CBBP]

Hi

You might want to add a source of phosphate to that list of ferts, although if you're fertilising a tank with gold fish in it you might not need to add too much nitrate and phosphate-those fish will create a lot of waste anyway.

Nick

so the Potassium Nitrate 1 lb. jsut uses half as much as I normally should? and yeah.. they are dirtry fish.. but not as hard to care for as one might think.

 

[zig]

Who's Morgan?

 

[TwoTankAmin]

The whole point of adding co2 is to let the plants have it. Surface aggitation from a filter or an airstone will just outgas the co2.

I have been pushing pressurized co2 through an Eheim Pro II canister for about 5 years now ( I dont use a reactor or diffuser). I have not had to replace any of the gaskets or seals so far.

I have been doing planted tanks for some time but I have never kept any of the cool water fish like goldies. I was under the impression they would eat plants? Am I wrong?

 

[NAL]

Are you adding the plants to an existing tank? If not, then plant the tank up and dose EI normally. When you add the fish take a few measurements of nitrate and phosphate to see how the levels change with the fish load. If they look like they're rising some, cut back, as you say may be a 1/2 dose. You may find that you don't need to dose N and P and only dose K. Always dose our macros though. In my planted Discus tank I rarely needed to dose P because they were big fish that ate a lot and created a lot of waste. Don't starve your fish just because you want to follow some dosing regime. EI is about maintaining levels so they don't go into deficit, and changing water to ensure they don't build up too much without having to get too worried about the exact concentrations. It shouldn't be about slavishly dosing chemicals into the tank day in day out either. Less dosing, less there is to forget/go wrong etc...

Nick

 

[CBBP]

The whole point of adding co2 is to let the plants have it. Surface aggitation from a filter or an airstone will just outgas the co2.

I have been pushing pressurized co2 through an Eheim Pro II canister for about 5 years now ( I dont use a reactor or diffuser). I have not had to replace any of the gaskets or seals so far.

I have been doing planted tanks for some time but I have never kept any of the cool water fish like goldies. I was under the impression they would eat plants? Am I wrong?

mm.. threw the canister huh? I suppose I might try that instead. How do I do it? Just let a co2 bell sit below the intake or let the hose end inside the intake?

And as for goldfish and plants.. they nibble.. the common mistake is you not plant enough at the same time.. and to get soft plants they can eat. but they nibble, eat a leaf or too but if they are will fed they will not even touch them.

 

[CBBP]

The whole point of adding co2 is to let the plants have it. Surface aggitation from a filter or an airstone will just outgas the co2.

I have been pushing pressurized co2 through an Eheim Pro II canister for about 5 years now ( I dont use a reactor or diffuser). I have not had to replace any of the gaskets or seals so far.

I have been doing planted tanks for some time but I have never kept any of the cool water fish like goldies. I was under the impression they would eat plants? Am I wrong?

mm.. threw the canister huh? I suppose I might try that instead. How do I do it? Just let a co2 bell sit below the intake or let the hose end inside the intake?

And as for goldfish and plants.. they nibble.. the common mistake is you not plant enough at the same time.. and to get soft plants they can eat. but they nibble, eat a leaf or too but if they are will fed they will not even touch them.

oh ok.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

I prefilter the Eheim and I have the co2 line stuffed down the inside of the sponge so the filter sucks the co2 in directly as it is produced.