Guppies

[LauraFrog]

So about two weeks ago, I brought home three guppies (2f 1m) and put them in a 5 gal nano, recently cycled. I lost all three of them to the same illness. They went lethargic and refused food, hid all the time, and finally went into convulsions and died.

I emptied the tank. I took out the filter, bleached the pipes and filter box and boiled the filter media. I scrubbed out the tank, rinsed the bleach from the filter pipes (I DO know how to shift bleach from fish tank components) and put it back together. I used fresh gravel, filter media from a mature tank, half the water came out of a mature tank and half was new. I put platy fry in it to cycle it again, and they are fine.

Does this mean I can add more guppies safely?

I don't want to lose any more. Everybody says guppies are very easy to keep, and in my last experience with them that was the case but just then they died like flies. I don't like my fish dying!

 

[kribensis12]

Guppies arent that easy to keep really. Becasue most have been so inbred it isnt even funny. I had 9 guppies. I lost in 2 weeks. I have 1 left and she is doing fine.

 

[Minni3]

How do you make sure guppies are inbred? Are the ones at the pet store inbred?

 

[kribensis12]

To get the colors you see today, the guppies have been inbred so many times that they are to weak to even be transported( usually)

 

[modaz]

To get the colors you see today, the guppies have been inbred so many times that they are to weak to even be transported( usually)

nonsense!!!! most shop guppies are not inbreeds, yes they are bred from crossing to create the strain but then they are crossed with different colonies of the same strain to keep the blood line fresh and solid, if you go into a shop and see solid guppies i.e the same variety in one tank this proves this, it takes inbreeding at a point over 8 generations of the same family of guppies to weaken the strain, most guppies are either from sri-lanka, sigapore etc... and they are not inbreeds.
the reason why these fish died is because they were added to a newly cycled tank, there is a big difference to newwly cycled and matured tanks, the tank should be cycled then hardier fish added to it to help mature the tank, guppies should ideally be added to a tank after atleast a month from cycling, they must not be the first fish in the tank.

 

[kribensis12]

Modaz- I know you know alot about fish ( espcially livebearer's) but how do you explain 8 out of 9 guppies dying in under 2 weeks when i aclimated them fine, feed them well( lots of Spirulina), had a VERY matured media, did regualr gravel changes, and so forth. No matter where i get them from, they die, I only have 1 female left, who seems fine. I was told by my freind who works at my fav lfs that thier guppies are extremely inbred. Also, i talked to the Manager from Petsmart( yea, i questioned them afte rhte gup's died) how those gup's were bred. He said that they have alot of guppies of the same strain and let them breed with eachother. Then they isolate the females and raise thier fry. Then they save the best looking males an dfemales and sen dthe rest to Petsmart around the area. Not sure if that's true, but it would sure explain so of the crappieness that im seeing in the gup's right now.

 

[fish48]

If you know they sale crap guppies then don’t bye them
And Stop moaning about inbreeds
Go to a proper pet shop that sale good guppies.

 

[modaz]

If you know they sale crap guppies then don't bye them
And Stop moaning about inbreeds
Go to a proper pet shop that sale good guppies.

true, 100% true stop buying crap

 

[5teady_2012]

If you have had all them guppies dieso quick, then when you bought them, one of them could of had a disease (not all diseases make a fish look bad) i had about 15 guppies and only 3 survived from a bunch i bought a long time back, one of them which i didnt realise at the time had saddleback and it spread and killed all but 3.. this was visible i know but yours may of had a internal problem or anything..

Some fish do die out of the blue and i put this down to a internal problem in them..

 

[helterskelter]

If you know they sale crap guppies then don't bye them
And Stop moaning about inbreeds
Go to a proper pet shop that sale good guppies.

true, 100% true stop buying crap

LOL both very true, I only buy from breeders and had fish from both Modaz and Fish48 and their "Inbreed fish" are stronger and better than any others.

Last thing i want to see is another "Inbreed" topic on the run, I'm feed up with it all here!!!!

Also if you want to spend a little more on quality fish then that better then spending on cheap crap fish, thats why i buy driect from breeder or auction NOT shops