Guppies In A 5 Gallon Tub

[cooledwhip]

I am going to an aquatic convention and I am going to be purchasing a couple high tier expensive strains of guppies and endlers to breed and sell the fry just for a small profit. I plan on setting up some 5 gallon buckets and lots of my water hyacinth (which is still for sale if anyone wants any) and letting them breed on their own. I have done this over the summer and I have had about 50-100 guppies in a single 5 gallon tub. Yes it is overcrowding, YES they are happy. because they BREED in there. They are always moving and I have never had problems with ammonia because the water hyacinth is great at removing it. I have bred guppies a lot of times and never worried about temperature, so would the fry be able to live in temperature of about 70 degrees? Thats my basement room temperature.

 

[fish48]

70 degrees is ideal for them at 70f  guppies will usually live longer and less chances of diseases. i have had some live over 3 years they do best between 68f-74f

 

[fluttermoth]

YES they are happy. because they BREED in there.

I just want to point out that this isn't necessarily true.

Very many animals (and plants) will breed, even under poor or stressful conditions; if conditions are poor, then you need to produce as many progeny as possible to ensure that at least a few survive to continue the species.

 

[cooledwhip]

 

YES they are happy. because they BREED in there.

I just want to point out that this isn't necessarily true.

Very many animals (and plants) will breed, even under poor or stressful conditions; if conditions are poor, then you need to produce as many progeny as possible to ensure that at least a few survive to continue the species.
 

I understand that is the case with some animals and could possibly be the case here, but guppies are a hardy species and I have seen first hand these animals are very happy. The water is changed 2-3 times a day, very light feedings with live food (mosquito larvae) Lots of plants to filter water.

 

[BettaBettas]

idk I still think even with the listed pros, that this tub is overcrowded slightly... a lot..

 

[cooledwhip]

I was going to say something but then I deleted it...

 
the 50-100 guppies that are in there are fry. Not even a quarter of an inch so it is not overcrowded, and that is from my experience with spawning and raising multiple species of fish.

 

[fish48]

5 gallon tanks are far better than buckets at least you can look through the glass and see the fish properly I would suggest a ideal breeding setup would be a 10 gallon tank. if you’re going to use a 5 gallon tank/bucket 20 Guppies would be the max ,
temperature 70 degrees is ideal for fry and adults at 70f  guppies will usually live longer and less chances of diseases. i have had some live over 3 years they do best between 68f-74f
 live foods. that can be fed to guppies White worms, Grindall Worm, Micro worm, water worms, banana worms) Flightless Fruit Flies,  Vinegar Eels,
it pays in the long run to give your fish plenty of space keep them healthy 

 

[cooledwhip]

Yes... I have mentioned I raise the fry in the 5 gallon buckets. I will limit my 50-100 down to about 20-30. They are only fry keep in mind.
 
(for the new member(s), a fry is a baby fish. Less than an 1/8 inch in length)
 
I just wanted to know if they would mate in 70 degrees because my room temp water is kinda cold.

 

[squidneh]

I'm just kind of curious as to how your fry are breeding if they are that small? To be less than a quarter of an inch they must only be what, 3 weeks old at the most? Doesn't quite line up if I'm remembering growth stages of guppies correctly lol. They usually don't breed until they are 6ish weeks old at the youngest, and you wouldn't get many fry from such a young fish. 
 
Anyways, clearly you are firm in your opinion on whether or not your tank is crowded - that's all it is though, an opinion, keep that in mind. We are on a forum so everyone is sharing their opinions and they are mostly valid even if you don't agree with them. Personally for a nursery I think that you aren't over crowded, but to have 50-100 adults in a 5 gallon bucket would be inhumane in my opinion, which is what your initial post came off as (and I think is what others are objecting to) but you changed up your story so I'm not sure what exactly you have going on. 
 
ETA: Yes, your guppies will be perfectly fine at that temp. 

 

[cooledwhip]

I'm just kind of curious as to how your fry are breeding if they are that small? To be less than a quarter of an inch they must only be what, 3 weeks old at the most? Doesn't quite line up if I'm remembering growth stages of guppies correctly lol. They usually don't breed until they are 6ish weeks old at the youngest, and you wouldn't get many fry from such a young fish. 
 
Anyways, clearly you are firm in your opinion on whether or not your tank is crowded - that's all it is though, an opinion, keep that in mind. We are on a forum so everyone is sharing their opinions and they are mostly valid even if you don't agree with them. Personally for a nursery I think that you aren't over crowded, but to have 50-100 adults in a 5 gallon bucket would be inhumane in my opinion, which is what your initial post came off as (and I think is what others are objecting to) but you changed up your story so I'm not sure what exactly you have going on. 
 
ETA: Yes, your guppies will be perfectly fine at that temp. 

No they aren't breeding... let me explain. (eye rolling emoji)
 
I put in a trio, they breed, I let them live and raise with their fry. At about a month old I start selling them.
50-100 is an exaggeration on my part. It's more like 50.