Guppies Been Attacked

[vivh]

hi,
I am really concerned as during today I have lost one guppy and the other remaining one has obviously been attacked as it has had a load of its tail damaged. this has happened in the space of a few hours. I have had to separate the poor remaining guppy as he was resting on the top of the filter with damaged tail, i've put him in an egg hatchery thing i have, Do you think I may be able to save him if i keep him separated & if so does tail damage take ages to recover from - I have no idea. he is still eating & swimming, just about.

this has never happened in the tank before until today & i'm wondering who dunnit!
My platies are acting a bit oddly, my other suspect could be the Bolivian Ram who is not ill, is it likely that because he no longer has the ill Ram to boss about that he could have turned his attention to the guppies?

any advice greatly appreciated, I have already lost a platy this week, & now 1 guppy & still have 1 sick Ram !
thanks

Viv




Tank size: 70l
pH: n/k
ammonia: n/k
nitrite: n/k
nitrate:n/k
kH:
gH:
tank temp: 27

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):still 1 Bolivan Ram darkening in colour, loss of appetite, inactive, remaining at tank bottom .

Volume and Frequency of water changes: 25% each week, Saturday did a 50% change however

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: 3 caps of Bio added with each change
I had an outbreak of Ich after the tetras a few weeks ago and did a course of Protozin, whitespot all treated sucessfully
Friday added anti Internal Bacteria. ti try treat the sick Ram.

Tank inhabitants: 5 corys, 2 dutch rams, 2 bolivian rams, 2 guppies, 2 platies (lost 1 other today)
1 cardinal, 4 black tetras, 1 Plec,

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration):
last additions were 4 tetras, 4 weeks ago, & 1 new platy over a week ago.

Exposure to chemicals:
n/k

 

[WILDER]

All i can think of is the rams, but don't know them that well never kept them, add some melafix to his bowl to stop any infection, i would see if the lfs would take him back when he recovers as once they start fin nipping that it, sorry.

 

[WILDER]

Are you sure it's not nipping, as it could be a bacterial infection, what wrong with one of the rams.

 

[vivh]

Are you sure it's not nipping, as it could be a bacterial infection, what wrong with one of the rams.

wilder, I dont quite understand what you have put, is there a connection between nipping and bacterial infections?

My bolivan Ram is definitely dying, i've had to put in the breeding trap, its been trying to swim but kept going upside down & spinning does this mean anything to you?

thanks
Viv

 

[WILDER]

Yes bacterial infection with the ram swim bladder, and guppys can get bacterial finrot and they can lose most of there tail in aday, just wanted to make sure it wasn't bacterial over fin nipping.

Tail and fin rot can be prevented by keeping ammonia and nitrite levels low, adding salt at regular intervals, and quarantine of new fish. Guppies are particularly susceptible to this disease, and you will first recognize it as a ragged edge on the tail fin. Healthy adult tail fins should have a fairly straight edge, though sometimes adolescents will have temporary ragged fins due to uneven growth. As the disease progresses, the other fins become ragged, and the fins develop a white (sometimes though not always, fuzzy) margin. Sometimes, the fins will also develop red bloodspots. If the disease is allowed to continue, your guppies will die. In most species of fish this disease is a combination of bacteria and fungus on the fins themselves, however guppies tend towards acquiring an internal bacterial infection which spreads to the fins. You may try the salt treatment (instructions given later), as this sometimes does the trick. If that doesn't work, an antibiotic such as tetracycline can be used. Let your pet shop help you. They will specifically need to know if you use a bio-filter as many antibiotics will kill your filter.



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