Grrr! How Can I Make The Violence Stop?!

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Ok.. so I added another golden gourami female to my tank and now the male is attack everything visiously now. It is worse then before. Anyway.. this is what i am wonderign now. Will males of other species attack a female of a different type? and will amles of different types attack each other?

I am thinking of removing the male or the two females (perhaps moving them to my 72 gallon ) then putting males of other types together... :/ that will be my last resoure. I am going to try and place him in a fry basket and separate him from the girls.

Please respond soon.
 
is it attacking the other fishes?
or just the tank?
if its just attackin the tank and stuff i think giving it some time would work
if it just thrashing itself around and no one is getting hurt then its all good
 
Putting two males together is the last thing you ever want to do - they'll deffinately kill each other.

Adding different species of gourami isn't going to improve the situation either - three-spots are one of the most aggressive and also get reasonably large - they'll attack other species if you add them now and they'll almost deffinately kill those new fish as well.

If you'd posted about adding another female on here and I'd replied, I'd have told you to add at least two more and to make shure you re-arange the tank just before and that the two new fish are the same size (or just larger) than the two you already have. New fish are viewed as 'intruders' by the territorial three-spots you already owned. Males are worse in this category than females and may go as far as to kill the newcomer (females may as well - but males are generaly more territorial). By adding just one, you also guarantee she'll get picked on regularly - if you add two or more, the aggression is at least split between them. Re-aranging the tank and buying same-sized fish evens out hierarchy/territory issues as the territory appears to be more neutral for the existing fish (because it looks 'new' to them) so they are less defensive and, as with most species, size often dictates hierarchy - the largest are most dominant - so having them all be the same size evens things out.

As things stand, you need to seperate the fish or return some. Personaly, unless you plan to breed (which can be hazardous, BTW, for even non-gourami tankmates as males become very aggressive by community standards), I'd find a new home for the male (or take him to your LFS) and buy a couple more female three-spots instead.
I'm not shure whether you realise this but gold, blue, opaline, cosby, lavender and platinum gouramies all belong to the same species (Trichogaster trichopterus) so any combination of colors is fine and you'd probably find that a group of females gets along quite well and that they'll even display something like schooling behaviour. You'll need at least a 30 gallon to pull off a group of 4 females though.

Just so you are aware - even keeping two females isn't the best idea as one will come to be dominant over the other (so removing just the male and not adding any is best avoided). The sort of aggression you'll see will be nothing compaired to the male's but it's still very stressful for the subordinate fish and may make her - and therefore the whole tank - prone to disease. By keeping a group, you ensure aggression is devided and the hierarchy is mroe complex - allowing all fish a respite from aggression and enabling them to be more social.

Your other option is, of course, to simply stick with just one of your three-spots (males do better alone than females but the decision here is more down to personal prefference).
 
:/ ugh.. well.. I think I might just take them all back.. they make me mad..

but first I am going to try and take them all out and put them back in after I 100% re-arrange it.. :/

ugh.. oh and BTW.. the more I look at the "female" the more I am startign to think it is a male.. but it is browner then my other male.. ugh.. ugh ug hugh..

well masters of the gourami.. if I want to have gourami's in a tank.. what shold I do first? :/ I guys i jsut want some dwarf's.. they are pretty.. and last time i had one he was pleasant.. thoguh my betta did not like him gettign nere hsi floating wisteria bunch.
 
How large si this tank and what else is in it?

Returning the three-spots is the best way to go if you are prepaired to do so.

I wouldn't replace them with dwarfs though - they are rather fragile and sensitive - extremely prone to disease. Instead, maybe a trio of pearl gouramies (Trichogaster leeri) or banded gouramies (Colisa fasciata) would make nice replacements but tank size and other inhabitants matters. Alternatively, honey gouramies (Colisa chuna/sota) make the perfect smaller gourami for a community tank. Again, a trio works best.

Also, BTW, bettas are gouramies themselves and they shouldn't realy be kept with other gouramies because they often fight with each other. Just keep that in mind in future.
 
I know.. my old betta never faught my dwarfs.. the three males and the betta got along pretty good.. the Betta just flared form tiem to time when the dwarfs got to close to his "home".. not bitting or butting..



anyway..I took them out, moved the tank stuff around, and put them back in. the "Bull" is letting the other two eat and he is not chasing the females around constantly now.. jsut once in a while and no so visiously. he even lets them come up and poke at him with the feeler fin things.. ventral? :/


mm Upon Closer inspection.. the "Bull" is still attackign the original female be leaves the newiest female alone completely. :/ I suppose I will get ride of them.. Any one want them? the female is very pretty and the male is quite beautiful asn full as well.. the newest female is alittlw skrawny though.. she can sjut go to the pet store.. anyway.. anyone want them? :/

Hyer should I place the male in my 72 gallon? will he attack angel fish, rams, or cories?
 
Yep, they are the ventral fins ;)

Your male shouldn't be a problem for the cories or rams because they spend more time near the bottom of the tank but he might clash with your angels if they are territorial or decide to breed because he'll feel threatened. Generaly speaking though, as long as there are no other gouramies, it's certainly worth trying to keep him in that tank.
 

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