Got Some More Neons

[mr130gallon]

so, yesterday i got another 9 neon tetras for my 130 gallon, bumping the number up to 20, the amount that i aimed for. but when i got home from school, i tried counting them (really hard!) and i counted about 17 or so, but i dont think any have died. anyways, one of the neons i had from before had the scales right under its dorsal fin turn a creamy white, and i think it looks normal now, but its a bit hard to find it (hope its not dead) and now one of the new ones has a creamy patch under its dorsal fin, but they both acted normal and hung out with the group, this isnt neon tetra disease is it?

by the way the neons look great and they really make the tank more lively, ill get pictures ASAP.

 

[mr130gallon]

has anyone heard of this before?

 

[drobbyb]

It didn't look like this did it? pic

 

[fatheadminnow]

I am assuming your water parameters are good, but I thought I would ask anyways.

So, what are your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels at?

-FHM

 

[GAB99]

im no expert, but i do recall one website here.


Disease Type:
sporozoan
Organism: Pleistophora hyphessobryconis

Names: Neon Tetra Disease, Pleistophora

Description: Neon Tetra disease is more common than many aquarium enthusiasts realize, and affects species beyond neon tetras. Named after the fish that it was first identified in, the disease strikes members of the tetra family most often. However, other popular families of aquarium fish are not immune.

Cichlids such as Angelfish, and Cyprinids such as Rasboras and Barbs, also fall victim to the disease. Even the common Goldfish can become infected. Interestingly enough, Cardinal tetras are resistant to the ravages of Neon Tetra disease. Caused by the sporozoan, Pleistophora hyphessobryconis, the disease is known for its rapid and high mortality rate among neons. To date there is no known cure, the only 'treatment' being the immediate removal of diseased fish to preserve the remaining fish.
The disease cycle begins when parasitic spores enter the fish after it consumes infected material, such as the bodies of dead fish, or live food such as tubifex, which may serve as intermediate hosts.
Once in the intestinal tract, the newly hatched embryos burrow through the intestinal wall and produce cysts within the muscle tissue. Muscles bearing the cysts begin to die, and the necrotic tissue becomes pale, eventually turning white in color.

Symptoms:
•Restlessness

•Fish begins to lose coloration

•As cysts develop, body may become lumpy

•Fish has difficulty swimming

•In advanced cases spine may become curved

•Secondary infections such as fin rot and bloating

During the initial stages, the only symptom may be restlessness, particularly at night. Often the first thing an owner will notice is that the affected fish no longer school with the others. Eventually swimming becomes more erratic, and it becomes quite obvious that the fish is not well.
As the disease progresses, affected muscle tissue begins to turn white, generally starting within the color band and areas along the spine. As additional muscle tissue is affected, the pale coloration expands. Damage to the muscles can cause curvature or deformation of the spine, which may cause the fish to have difficulty in swimming. It is not unusual for the body of the fish to have a lumpy appearance as the cysts deform the muscles.
Rotting of the fins, especially the caudal fin, is not uncommon. However, this is due to secondary infection rather than a direct result of the disease itself. Bloating is another secondary infection.
Treatment:


•None, separate or euthanize diseased fish


i think you ok.

 

[mr130gallon]

probably neon tetra disease,i seperated it and it died in the night,

my params are ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate ~20

 

[mr130gallon]

it wasnt that other thing robby, but when i got the neon it looked good, then 3 hours later it had a large white patch on its back

 

[drobbyb]

The white patch is what made me think columnaris. Sometimes it starts with the mouth and other times anywhere else. Usually it kills the victim in the matter of a day.

 

[mr130gallon]

ok, ill keep an eye on my other neons, and if any develop 'the patch' ill take pictures and post them for a better diagnosis

 

[GAB99]

aww sorry bout your fish, they really are quite delicate and have now way to tell you whats wrong. my parents say there just fish, but i treat the like a member of the family and hope you do to.

again, sorry about the neon