German Blue Rams And Ph

[aibo210]

Hi

I want to add german blue rams to my tank its 125L ive been reading up they need a low PH.

I am currently using tap water that sits at about 7.4-7.6 but im injecting CO2 as a planted tank at 30ppm which brings down my PH to 6.5.

Would it be possible to keep thease fish using CO2 to reduce ph of my water or do I need to use other methods aswell?

R.O water is difficult to buy where I am and also quite costly to set up but I like the look of these fish.

Any tips guys?

Cheers

 

[Truck]

whats the GH of your water?

 

[aibo210]

whats the GH of your water?

GH 10.18 °GH

 

[TigerIssey]

To be honest you will probably be buying tank bred fish. Tank bred fish are highly unlikely to be kept at low pH. A stable pH should be what you are aiming for and my advice would be to leave well alone. Temperature requirements and the need for sandy substrate is all you need to match for them.
Try to avoid balloon rams, they are bred to have all sorts of deformities and are unlikely to live very long compared to normal rams.

6.5 is low enough, no need to alter it at all, just keep it stable. Be aware that any rams you buy will probably have been kept at neutral pH as such you will need to acclimatise them for longer than normal as they are sensitive fish. I usually do rams for 3/4 hour to an hour and my pH is 6.8. Go for a little longer and you will keep stress to a minimum.
I and I think Truck does too, keep rams at 28 degrees, they do like warmer water and the colour is much better too.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

Although it is true tank bred fish can handle higher pH, I wouldn't worry about it too much as long as your tank is at a stable 6.5 and is not fluctuating.

Only thing you would need to do is acclimate them very slowly.

 

[Truck]

To be honest you will probably be buying tank bred fish. Tank bred fish are highly unlikely to be kept at low pH. A stable pH should be what you are aiming for and my advice would be to leave well alone. Temperature requirements and the need for sandy substrate is all you need to match for them.
Try to avoid balloon rams, they are bred to have all sorts of deformities and are unlikely to live very long compared to normal rams.

6.5 is low enough, no need to alter it at all, just keep it stable. Be aware that any rams you buy will probably have been kept at neutral pH as such you will need to acclimatise them for longer than normal as they are sensitive fish. I usually do rams for 3/4 hour to an hour and my pH is 6.8. Go for a little longer and you will keep stress to a minimum.
I and I think Truck does too, keep rams at 28 degrees, they do like warmer water and the colour is much better too.

yep 28oC is detrimental to their health.

 

[TigerIssey]

yep 28oC is detrimental to their health.

I think Truck meant lower than 28 is detrimental to their health.

 

[aibo210]

Well looking around the net ive come across seachem neutral regulator. http/www.seachem.com/Products/product_pa...lRegulator.html

Could I use this for my water changes aswell as injecting co2 at 30ppm to reach a leval safe to keep blue rams in tap water?

Thanks

 

[Truck]

yep 28oC is detrimental to their health.

I think Truck meant lower than 28 is detrimental to their health.

 

[aibo210]

bump

 

[TigerIssey]

I would not bother, keep it the same with water changes. Don't let detritus build up which would lower pH. You should not let nitrates get above 20 with rams anyway. Best to keep them between 10 - 15.

Keep an eye on the co2, keep that constant too.

QUOTE (TigerIssey @ Mar 30 2009, 09:15 AM)
QUOTE
yep 28oC is detrimental to their health.


I think Truck meant lower than 28 is detrimental to their health.

Don't worry Truck, I knew what you meant, seen you write it that many times!!

 

[Truck]

QUOTE (TigerIssey @ Mar 30 2009, 09:15 AM)
Don't worry Truck, I knew what you meant, seen you write it that many times!!

lol