Genetics

[Better is Betta]

Hi everyone heres a question for all you enthusiast....Half moon bettas By breeding a pair will all the fry turn out HM or will I get an assortment?

 

[lilfishie]

it would depend on whether both parents have full HM genes or not, you would probably get the odd Delta or Super Delta

 

[Better is Betta]

it would depend on whether both parents have full HM genes or not, you would probably get the odd Delta or Super Delta

Thank you for that info....the problem I have over here is there is no variety in Bettas just your usual VT and CT. But this aquarium wholesaler said he will be getting HM males only, imported in but couldn't get any females (long story) so this is a first for my area to have one. I would like to know if by breeding a HM with another variety could there be a chance of getting any fry with HM gene then crossing back with the male to get a full HM. Does that make sense? There is no way I will ever get a HM female here. So how can one make HM?

 

[lilfishie]

i guess you would have to spawn the young female with the biggest spread back to dad then possibly do it a few times, i don't know i have never bred bettas (hopfully soon to change)

 

[Better is Betta]

i guess you would have to spawn the young female with the biggest spread back to dad then possibly do it a few times, i don't know i have never bred bettas (hopfully soon to change)

Thanks for your input. It would probably take a while to do this and bettas don't live more than 2 years if conditions are right. Might be back to the drawing board. Maybe some time down the track the fish dealer might end up getting female HM

 

[Flare]

I would suggest that if you would like to breed halfmoons that you start out with a pair of halfmoons. The veiltail tail type is the hardest trait to breed out of a line once it has been introduced. Generations down the line you will still get the odd veiltails even if you breed the biggest tailspan to the biggest tailspan, even if you add new genetics to the line, the veiltail gene will always be in there. I would also not suggest incorporating crowntail genes into a halfmoon line, this will create a very unappealing looking fish that will be difficult to sell, and not able to show. And just like the veiltail, the extended rays of the crowntail gene will show up in quite a few generations.

Thanks for your input. It would probably take a while to do this and bettas don't live more than 2 years if conditions are right. Might be back to the drawing board. Maybe some time down the track the fish dealer might end up getting female HM

I just wanted to point out that bettas can live up to 5 or 6 years in proper conditions. I had a halfmoon plakat who lived to be 5 and a friend of mine had a veiltail who lived to be well over 7.

 

[Better is Betta]

I would suggest that if you would like to breed halfmoons that you start out with a pair of halfmoons. The veiltail tail type is the hardest trait to breed out of a line once it has been introduced. Generations down the line you will still get the odd veiltails even if you breed the biggest tailspan to the biggest tailspan, even if you add new genetics to the line, the veiltail gene will always be in there. I would also not suggest incorporating crowntail genes into a halfmoon line, this will create a very unappealing looking fish that will be difficult to sell, and not able to show. And just like the veiltail, the extended rays of the crowntail gene will show up in quite a few generations.

Thanks for your input. It would probably take a while to do this and bettas don't live more than 2 years if conditions are right. Might be back to the drawing board. Maybe some time down the track the fish dealer might end up getting female HM

I just wanted to point out that bettas can live up to 5 or 6 years in proper conditions. I had a halfmoon plakat who lived to be 5 and a friend of mine had a veiltail who lived to be well over 7.

Wow there's hope for me yet thanks for that info