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i have a question, my platy's seem to be flicking or rubing against objects in the tank like rocks, any idea what this means?? he is also standing at the top with his top fin down.

PH: 7.6
PH HR: 7.8
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
 
Usually fish flicking and rubbing themselves against objects in the tank indicates one of these problems;
a. Fish could have flukes, if they are body flukes then they will not be visible to the naked eye, however gill flukes often make fishes gills appear sore/red or swollen looking. Flukes are an external parasite that often cause just flicking/rubbing symptoms in fish as far as symptoms go of the parasites.
b. Fish could have the beginnings of whitespot, although the classic symptoms of whitespot are small sand grain size whitespots on the fish, the parasite goes through numerous life cycles, not all of which cause visible external symptoms, only just behavioral ones like flicking/rubbing and labored breathing etc.
c. There are irritants in the tanks water like undesirable water quality conditions or unwanted chemicals that have accidentally got into the tank like soap/cleaning chemicals, room sprays, deodorants etc.


It is kinda weird that you have no nitrates in the tank, most established tanks will have some nitrates in them since nitrates are the end product of the nitrogen cycle, and it is uncommon to have absolutely no nitrates unless the tank is very well planted or is finishing off its cycle. How long has this tank been set up for and what is your tank cleaning regime like/how do you go about it?
Also, have you introduced any new fish to your tank recently and what are the fish and numbers of fish you currently have in your tank :) ? How many gallons/liters is the tank as well?

I'm betting my money on that the fish have flukes, a type of external parasite, a lot of fish in fact carry flukes however face no obvious issues with them, its when the fish becomes stressed or its health goes downhill a bit for whatever reasons that the flukes go out of control and the fish can no longer deal with them, the fish then tries to itch the flukes off by rubbing itself against objects however this can sometimes just cause of the fish even more stress or even make it injure itself etc. If one fish is infested with flukes then they can spread to other healthy fish in the tank so its very important to treat the fish for flukes if this turns out to be what the fish has- more info on your situation would be handy in helping find out what exactly your fish have :nod: .
 
this particular tank has been runing for about 3-4 weeks on established media
i clean it once a week
placed 3 females last sunday only
10gal tank
3 fisha re in the tank only was 4 but one jumped out yesterday and died :(
 
The platys you bought probably already had flukes on them, i would advise treating the whole tank with an anti external parasitic med :good: .
 
is it safe to treat the tem with internal parasite and ich at the same time??
 
is it safe to treat the tem with internal parasite and ich at the same time??




Depends what the ingredients in the meds are and whether they state if they can be used with other meds on the bottle or not, but why do you want to treat for internal parasites and ich? You just want to be treating for external fluke parasites.
 
i believe this is ich, i was reading about it and that is the sympton. flicking rubing against objects and standing at the top for air.

internal parasite cus poo is white and they are thin
 
i believe this is ich, i was reading about it and that is the sympton. flicking rubing against objects and standing at the top for air.

internal parasite cus poo is white and they are thin



Well if it does turn out to be ich you'll see the classic whitespots symptoms appear on the fish sooner or later, its an inevitability- until the whitespots do appear though, the symptoms of body flukes and that of the ich parasites are very similar. Because you have just the platys in the tank, which are reasonably tolerant of salt, it may be a good idea to treat the tank with salt as this will help kill off any ich parasites and flukes :thumbs: .
 
both of my treatments don't say if i should do both at the same time or not,
will the ich med work with fluke?
 
both of my treatments don't say if i should do both at the same time or not,
will the ich med work with fluke?


I don't think ich meds can treat for flukes, but if you use salt with the ich med then the salt will help treat the flukes- salt is fine to use with ich meds.
 
I think as long as its pure salt and doesn't have anything added in it it should be fine, although i'm not certain on that.
 
okay ty :)
going to reat ich for 2 days then move on to internal parasite med, i hope the internal parasite med doesn't ahrm pregnant fish.
 
okay ty :)
going to reat ich for 2 days then move on to internal parasite med, i hope the internal parasite med doesn't ahrm pregnant fish.




Ah you will need to treat the fish for a lot longer than 2days if they have ich, a minimum of 2weeks of treatment, preferably 3 weeks would be a lot better since it takes a while to completely eradicate ich from tanks.
 
okay will do ty. still wondering if feeding a pregnant fish internal parasite med will harm the babies, thx!
 

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