Fishes Compatible With German Blue Rams?

[Gvilleguy]

Try this take a water sample from your tap and allow it to sit for 24 hours then test for pH and see what it is. You may just have to allow your tap water to settle for 24 hours before adding it to the tank

I will give this a try - thanks for the suggestion!

 

[mark4785]

If you've done a fishless cycle and then removed fish, you need to replace them fast or you're back into a mini fish in cycle every time you add.

That would only be the case if I removed some fish and replaced them 2-3 days later right? The 4 Bolivian Rams that I am going to remove will be replaced within 2 hours.

 

[roadmaster]

From expreience GBR's will very happily live with both dwarf neons and Bristlenose plecs.
To be honest they'll get on with a lot of community fish. They were probably ramming your' Bolivians because they were too similar.

I have kept the German Blue rams with Bristlenose with mixed success. Some of the Bristlenose I have kept showed a fondness for eggs and this drew the ire of the rams who at times were fearless in defense of their eggs and at other times,,they chose to simply abandon the eggs or eat them.
Would be worth a try but I might try and get large specimen of Bristlenose as opposed to a very young one.
Don't believe there are a whole lot of community fish that appreciate the warmer temps that the rams appreciate.
Most who keep the Rams ,keep them in average temp of 82 degrees F.
When kept at cooler temps,these fishes metabolisim slows down, and they often become more suceptible to disease much like Discus who also enjoy(need), warmer temps.
Would agree that cardinal tetras and rummy nose would be good tank mates for they seldom venture to the lower areas of the tank that the rams prefer and enjoy nearly smae water parameters.

 

[ajs2294]

From expreience GBR's will very happily live with both dwarf neons and Bristlenose plecs.
To be honest they'll get on with a lot of community fish. They were probably ramming your' Bolivians because they were too similar.

I have kept the German Blue rams with Bristlenose with mixed success. Some of the Bristlenose I have kept showed a fondness for eggs and this drew the ire of the rams who at times were fearless in defense of their eggs and at other times,,they chose to simply abandon the eggs or eat them.
Would be worth a try but I might try and get large specimen of Bristlenose as opposed to a very young one.
Don't believe there are a whole lot of community fish that appreciate the warmer temps that the rams appreciate.
Most who keep the Rams ,keep them in average temp of 82 degrees F.
When kept at cooler temps,these fishes metabolisim slows down, and they often become more suceptible to disease much like Discus who also enjoy(need), warmer temps.
Would agree that cardinal tetras and rummy nose would be good tank mates for they seldom venture to the lower areas of the tank that the rams prefer and enjoy nearly smae water parameters.

Bristle nose do fine at any size with Rams and I haven't seen any problems with them up at 84.6 in my discus tank. But you should know Pleco's are avid egg eaters, if there are any eggs they will find them and eat them. So if you are trying to breed fish its best to remove the plecs as 99% of the time your eggs will be eaten in 24-48 hours. People often turn to B/N's for population control even

 

[mark4785]

I've just looked into the water stat requirements for Rummy Nose Tetras and found out that they need a hardness level between 0-6 dGH, PH 5.5-7.0 and a temperature between 24-28 C.

My water is slightly harder than 6dGH and my PH is about 7.4. Would this matter?

I've come across another small fish named 'Bloodfin Tetra'. These seem to cope with a bigger range of water hardness levels and they like the PH to be between 6 and 8.

 

[ajs2294]

I've just looked into the water stat requirements for Rummy Nose Tetras and found out that they need a hardness level between 0-6 dGH, PH 5.5-7.0 and a temperature between 24-28 C.

My water is slightly harder than 6dGH and my PH is about 7.4. Would this matter?

I've come across another small fish named 'Bloodfin Tetra'. These seem to cope with a bigger range of water hardness levels and they like the PH to be between 6 and 8.

I'd stay stick with rummynose they'll do fine in 7.4 pH chances are your LFS keeps them about that high.

 

[GAB99]

looks to your pick you got a male neon rainbow (where did the chiclid come in it clearly states in the first post lol) so getting 4 females and another male would do nicely, females have orangy fins where as males have a unquestionable red

and rummys would be cool too as well as blood fins asboth are relatively common

 

[meguro]

looks to your pick you got a male neon rainbow (where did the chiclid come in it clearly states in the first post lol)

he edited his post to make it more accurate for ppl new to thread

regarding the rummynose tetras. where ever a blue ram can live a rummynose can too

 

[GAB99]

looks to your pick you got a male neon rainbow (where did the chiclid come in it clearly states in the first post lol)

he edited his post to make it more accurate for ppl new to thread

regarding the rummynose tetras. where ever a blue ram can live a rummynose can too

i suspected that my mistake

 

[quicksand]

Well, after some feedback given in my original stocking thread found here, I have decided to keep a pair of German Blue Rams Cichlids and 1 Neon Dwarf Rainbow and to remove 3 male Bolivian Rams and 1 female Bolivian as the males were beginning to fight each other.

When the Bolivian Rams have been removed I'm not sure what to replace them with. I know that the Neon Dwarf Rainbow needs to be a part of a shoal so maybe I should get him some friends? Could any other species of fish go within the aquarium. I'm looking for a smaller fish/fishes and one's that are compatible with German Blue water parameter requirements.

i won't help you with the situation, but in my opinion bolivian rams are much much nicer fish to have than the german blue rams, and what's more, from my experience, the bolivians are a lot hardier fish than the germans. just so you don't regret your sophie's choice.

 

[Gvilleguy]

What's the size difference on the adult Blue Ram versus Bolivian, though?

 

[meguro]

negligible. unless u get one of those balloon ram abominations

 

[roadmaster]

From expreience GBR's will very happily live with both dwarf neons and Bristlenose plecs.
To be honest they'll get on with a lot of community fish. They were probably ramming your' Bolivians because they were too similar.

I have kept the German Blue rams with Bristlenose with mixed success. Some of the Bristlenose I have kept showed a fondness for eggs and this drew the ire of the rams who at times were fearless in defense of their eggs and at other times,,they chose to simply abandon the eggs or eat them.
Would be worth a try but I might try and get large specimen of Bristlenose as opposed to a very young one.
Don't believe there are a whole lot of community fish that appreciate the warmer temps that the rams appreciate.
Most who keep the Rams ,keep them in average temp of 82 degrees F.
When kept at cooler temps,these fishes metabolisim slows down, and they often become more suceptible to disease much like Discus who also enjoy(need), warmer temps.
Would agree that cardinal tetras and rummy nose would be good tank mates for they seldom venture to the lower areas of the tank that the rams prefer and enjoy nearly smae water parameters.

Bristle nose do fine at any size with Rams and I haven't seen any problems with them up at 84.6 in my discus tank. But you should know Pleco's are avid egg eaters, if there are any eggs they will find them and eat them. So if you are trying to breed fish its best to remove the plecs as 99% of the time your eggs will be eaten in 24-48 hours. People often turn to B/N's for population control even

In defense of their eggs/nest, I have seen German blue rams attack young bristlenose fry and they can inflict serious damage to young Bristlenose smaller than two inches, hence my suggestion of larger specimen. The rams usually will nip the fins but on occasion, they may also go for the eye's much the same way larger cichlids will.
A temp of 82 degrees is about the upper extreme for the bristlenose and would expect possibly shorter lifespan if kept in temps above 82 degree F. Sadly,, most people use them for "cleaner fish" and don't always appreciate their needs to the degree that other fishes enjoy.
I would no more place a Bristlenose at 84 degrees F for extended periods than I would a Discus at 70 degrees F .Opinions vary.