Fish Still Dying

[kidjatt]

Still finding dead fish, my tanks down to about 8 or 9 now, 'only' found 2 in the last 2 days. Ive been treating with anti interal bacteria, but also need to treat for finrot, can i treat the water with both? if no what do i do? thanks

 

[WILDER]

Need more info i'm afraid.
Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate,and ph.
Symtoms of the fish.

 

[kidjatt]

Need more info i'm afraid.
Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate,and ph.
Symtoms of the fish.

Size of tank - 5ft 250 litres approx
Fish - 1 RTS, 1 Silver shark, 6 tiger barbs, 2 guppies, 3 Golden danios, 2 Clown loaches, 1 gourami, 3 neon tetras, 3 flame tetra's. The rest have died
Stats -
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
PH 7.0
no3 20/25 ppm

Symptoms - basically all the fish started dieing saturday evening, lost 20 plus fish. This forum diagnosed it as internal bacteria, i bought the treatment and added it and the deaths have almost stopped, found a dead clown loach 2day. Some of the fins on some fish had 'rotted'. Was told to get pimafix, didnt manage to get that but got anti funus & finrot by interpet. The women at lfs said u cant use two treatments at once. What do i do?

thanks

 

[WILDER]

The clown loach did it look skinny.
Anyf ish still doing long stringy white poo.

 

[kidjatt]

just found another dead clown loach. Erm it didnt look skinny,but the black stripes had faded. Also the clown loach that died 2day had been sitting on the gravel and on its side quite a bit 2day, i thought it was dead earlier but it wasnt.
The white string poo has stopped now, it was diagnosed by phoenix on this forum.

Should i add the fin rot treatment?

 

[WILDER]

Ok.
Just want to ask you something can you go and smell the water in the tank and say what it smells like.
Keep going with the bacterial med for now.
If the bacteria infection has really advanced there hard to cure with uk meds.

 

[kidjatt]

it didnt look skinny, but the color had faded a lil bit. Found another dead clown loach just now, the gill's were quite red.

Do i add the fin rot treatment?

Is this forum really slow

 

[WILDER]

If the gills was red and inflamed that a sign of flukes and fish can get them internally as well as externally.
Any flicking and rubbing going off.
Any increasing breathing.
Shying at objects.
Being pale also is a sign of flukes.

 

[kidjatt]

cant really describe the smell, doesnt stink just smells like a fish tank does.

So how come all of the fish havent died?

 

[WILDER]

http/article.dphnet.com/cat-02/flukes1.shtml

 

[kidjatt]

so how do you cure flukes? the golden danio's have also gone paler

 

[WILDER]

Wan't to make sure it is flukes first.
Flukes are nasty as in there hooks they carry a nasty bacteria which enters the fish blood stream when it pierces the skin causing bacterial infections on top.

These are the signs of flukes.
Pale gills with excess mucas on them.
Red inflamed gill can look like there bleeding.
Flicking and rubbing.
Laboured breathing.
Swimming in a jerky movement.
Shying at objects.
Losing weight/
Sores or ulcers on the body of the fish.
Spitting food out of there mouths.
http/www.flubenol.co.uk/

 

[kidjatt]

in the article, are they reffering to aqua tonic salt or a special salt?

 

[WILDER]

Flukes are really hard to get rid off can take ages.
Salt wouldnt bother.
The flubenol if it is flukes is about the best med in the uk you can get for flukes.
If there an eye laying fluke it takes 4 weeks dosing once a week.

http/www.fishdoc.co.uk/disease/flukes.htm

 

[kidjatt]

so you can actually see these 'flukes', the only symptom was the red gills