Fish Fry In Java Moss?

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I was cleaning my tank in teh past week and I took out a clump of java moss that was floating around im my tank. I put the clump of moss in a container with some of teh tank water and left it out for about a week. Todays i looked in the container and noticed a teeny fish fry swimming around! It was only about 4-5 mm long. I looked closer and noticed that there were about 5 more eggs in the clump of moss that were about 2-3 mm. I have some panda corys and julii corys in my tank along with some rainbowfish. Does anyone know what kind of fry these could be? The single fry seems to be swimming around teh surface of teh water.I know these fry probably wont survive, but im just curious to know...

Id try and get some pictures, but it is just so tiny
 
what kind of rainbow fish are they? did u have anything else in there uve removed over the past couple of weeks?
 
what kind of rainbow fish are they? did u have anything else in there uve removed over the past couple of weeks?

I have boesmani Ranbow fish taht are aabout 2 inches long right now. I added them about 2 weeks ago and I only added three for now.

The cories and the rainbowfish are the only fish that have been in my tank for a while now

Can't you put them in a breeder net in the tank so they can survive?

I do have a floating breeder thing, but they would jusswin through the little holes. Would they ahve a ebtter chace of surviving if i put them inn a breeder net in teh tank?

I am also a little afraid that I woudl hurt them if i transferred them over to somewhere else.
 
Another one of the eggs juse hatched and now tehre are two little fry swimming around!
 
Hahaha :hyper: This is typical! It has happened to me too. I changed some plants from one tank to another, and ended up with having fry in that other tank!

I think you do have a good chance the other eggs hatching, just provide them with the same conditions as in your original tank. Keep the java moss in though, as it provides infusoria, a great fry food!
 
Im guessing taht they may be rainbowfish fry because they are swimming at the top of the water. I would guess taht cory fry would swim at the bottom of the container?

When should I start feeding these mystery fry and what shoudl I feed them?
 
Freshly hatched brine shrimp is great and not too difficult to do.

Baby Brine Shrimp

Here's what you would need:

- 2L coke bottle (7up botttle works just as well... )
- Some airline tubing
- Air pump
- Air valve
- Some stones
- Desktop lamp
- Brine shrimp eggs (you can get this from eBay or aquabid.com)
- Baking soda
- Aquarium salt
- Coffee filter
- Plastic cup
- Syringe (without needles!)

Steps to build:
-----------------

1. Remove the advertising material off the bottle so that it is completely clear. Wash them thoroughly.
2. Cut off the bottle at around 1/3 way from the top. Make sure you keep the cap!
3. Punch a hole through the cap using philips screw driver. The size should be slightly narrower than the thickness of the tube.
4. Insert the tube into the cap - make sure the tube shows about 1/4 inch from the inside of the cap. Screw the cap into the bottle.
5. Connect the other end of the tube to a valve, then continue to the air pump. You must be able to adjust the amount of air fed into this setup!
6. Put the stones into the bottom part of the bottle. This is to make sure that the whole bottle doesn't get tipped over easily.
7. Insert the top 1/3 with the tubing upside down.

That's it for the setup! Nice and cheap...

How to use it:
----------------

1. Add some water into the top 1/3, until it fills up up to about 1 inch below the top line.
2. Turn on the air pump and control the valve until you get about 5 bubbles per second. It does not need to be vigorous.
3. Add 1/3 - 1/2 teaspoon full of baking soda and aquarium salt. Brine shrimps can only be hatched in a salty water, so you must do this.
4. Add about 1/3 to 1/2 teaspoon full of brine shrimp eggs. 1/3 seems to be enough for 2 days worth. If you have more than 2 tanks of fries to feed, I suggest at least 1/2 if not more.
5. Leave them on for 1 to 2 days. If your room temp is 70F or better, it usually starts to hatch in 24 hours. Hotter means faster hatch, cooler means slower hatch. Once hatched, you can leave it for two days and during these two days, you can extract them as often as you like.

How to extract:
-----------------

1. Stop the air pump. Note that you will see bright orange specks moving randomly and quickly. You can't mistake this for anything else...
2. Face the table lamp near where the cap is. Baby brine shrimps get attracted to lights, so if you place the light near the bottom, they will all move towards the bottom. This step can take few minutes.
3. Place a coffee filter on top of a cup or another bottom portion of 2L bottle. Make sure the center is slightly sunk to accomodate some water without spiling over.
4. Insert the syringe into the water, near the bottom and extract shrimps into it. This needs a bit of practice as if you do it too quickly, you will suck in quite a lot of egg shells as well. Egg shells do float, so it isn't impossible to separate them later on.
5. Pour shrimps (and water) on top of the filter. Wait until all water have been filtered off.
6. Now you have a choice - you can either "wash" this filter directly into the tank where you want to feed the shrimps, or you can reverse the filter, place it on another cup, and shoot water using the syringe so that most of the shrimps will drop into the new cup.

There! Baby brine shrimps are one of the best food you can provide for pretty much all fries. In fact, most adult fishes also thrive on this food as well. Once setup, it will be one of the cheapest source of food as well if you buy a decent size can. I've been feeding my fries for the past year, and I've only used up 1/3 of the can I purchased while back. The can only costed me $15 or so.

Good luck!
 
Freshly hatched brine shrimp is great and not too difficult to do.

Baby Brine Shrimp

Here's what you would need:

- 2L coke bottle (7up botttle works just as well... )
- Some airline tubing
- Air pump
- Air valve
- Some stones
- Desktop lamp
- Brine shrimp eggs (you can get this from eBay or aquabid.com)
- Baking soda
- Aquarium salt
- Coffee filter
- Plastic cup
- Syringe (without needles!)

Steps to build:
-----------------

1. Remove the advertising material off the bottle so that it is completely clear. Wash them thoroughly.
2. Cut off the bottle at around 1/3 way from the top. Make sure you keep the cap!
3. Punch a hole through the cap using philips screw driver. The size should be slightly narrower than the thickness of the tube.
4. Insert the tube into the cap - make sure the tube shows about 1/4 inch from the inside of the cap. Screw the cap into the bottle.
5. Connect the other end of the tube to a valve, then continue to the air pump. You must be able to adjust the amount of air fed into this setup!
6. Put the stones into the bottom part of the bottle. This is to make sure that the whole bottle doesn't get tipped over easily.
7. Insert the top 1/3 with the tubing upside down.

That's it for the setup! Nice and cheap...

How to use it:
----------------

1. Add some water into the top 1/3, until it fills up up to about 1 inch below the top line.
2. Turn on the air pump and control the valve until you get about 5 bubbles per second. It does not need to be vigorous.
3. Add 1/3 - 1/2 teaspoon full of baking soda and aquarium salt. Brine shrimps can only be hatched in a salty water, so you must do this.
4. Add about 1/3 to 1/2 teaspoon full of brine shrimp eggs. 1/3 seems to be enough for 2 days worth. If you have more than 2 tanks of fries to feed, I suggest at least 1/2 if not more.
5. Leave them on for 1 to 2 days. If your room temp is 70F or better, it usually starts to hatch in 24 hours. Hotter means faster hatch, cooler means slower hatch. Once hatched, you can leave it for two days and during these two days, you can extract them as often as you like.

How to extract:
-----------------

1. Stop the air pump. Note that you will see bright orange specks moving randomly and quickly. You can't mistake this for anything else...
2. Face the table lamp near where the cap is. Baby brine shrimps get attracted to lights, so if you place the light near the bottom, they will all move towards the bottom. This step can take few minutes.
3. Place a coffee filter on top of a cup or another bottom portion of 2L bottle. Make sure the center is slightly sunk to accomodate some water without spiling over.
4. Insert the syringe into the water, near the bottom and extract shrimps into it. This needs a bit of practice as if you do it too quickly, you will suck in quite a lot of egg shells as well. Egg shells do float, so it isn't impossible to separate them later on.
5. Pour shrimps (and water) on top of the filter. Wait until all water have been filtered off.
6. Now you have a choice - you can either "wash" this filter directly into the tank where you want to feed the shrimps, or you can reverse the filter, place it on another cup, and shoot water using the syringe so that most of the shrimps will drop into the new cup.

There! Baby brine shrimps are one of the best food you can provide for pretty much all fries. In fact, most adult fishes also thrive on this food as well. Once setup, it will be one of the cheapest source of food as well if you buy a decent size can. I've been feeding my fries for the past year, and I've only used up 1/3 of the can I purchased while back. The can only costed me $15 or so.

Good luck!

Thanks for all this detailed information! :)
 
Hahaha :hyper: This is typical! It has happened to me too. I changed some plants from one tank to another, and ended up with having fry in that other tank!

I think you do have a good chance the other eggs hatching, just provide them with the same conditions as in your original tank. Keep the java moss in though, as it provides infusoria, a great fry food!


Do you think tehre will be enough infusoria in the java moss to feed the fry for now? Or should i ffed them with something else...they seem to small right now to eat any baby brine shrimp.
 
Depends, how large is the container?

Its about a half gallon container taht is filled half way up

Depends upon the amount of java moss and the size of the fry. Otherwise look in the killi subforum on how to cultivate infusoria.

The fry are still about 3-5 cm long right now and the clump of java moss is about the size of a tennis ball maybe...?
 
I've heard snails also produce infusoria, but the cantainer is too small to handle their waste. You have the breeder box type not the net type?
 

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