Fish Dropping Off Daily W/ Tails Compleatlyer Gone... Need Help Findi

[Duff83]

last night one of my male cherry bards kicked it, he had no tail, and his face was eaten to the bone(that part i suspect was the corey after the cherry had died) just now i watched the other male cherry pick at the only female i have... she has no tail and she did this morning... now shes tailless and will most likely die tonight. also i found a neon dead w/ no nips to the tail... the neons are new as of yesterday(4 of the 6 i had as of mid after noon that is, now i have 5) now i took the male cherry bard that i saw pick at the female, and put him into isolation in my breeding net... he has not a blemish on him... but for some reason i think he was just picking at here because she was already disabled... and w/ out a tail. i have been treating ich this past week(successfully) i feed the fish twice daily, but im having my doubts and im starting to think my betta is the one to blame... any thoughts and solution suggestions?

 

[WILDER]

I would get a betta a tank of its own they can nip other fish.
Cherry barbs are fin nippers and it best to have more females to males I think.
How long did you climatise the new neons for.
What was the lfs ph to your tank.
Always check bag water in ph and temp. This way you know how long to climatise for.

What are your water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

 

[Duff83]

I would get a betta a tank of its own they can nip other fish.
Cherry barbs are fin nippers and it best to have more females to males I think.
How long did you climatise the new neons for.
What was the lfs ph to your tank.
Always check bag water in ph and temp. This way you know how long to climatise for.

What are your water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

well the betta kicked it this aftr noon... and im getting really worried. its entier head was a lighter color than its body... he seamed to bounce back w/ the ich treatment over the week, and then just like instantaneously last night he started to get a little white near the mouth and up his head... came home to find it past his eyes and into his gill plate, and he was dead.

now the final cherry barb has the same but its smack in th middle of his body and he isnt looking good.

the rest of th fish appear fine and very very active as usual.

ph is the same as the lfs, as they are a block down the street. they test my water for me and my last check was two days ago and they showed me th test and said everything was normal/safe levels... so i have no clue whats going on.

i took the carbon out of th filters in my hobf to treat for ich... could the absence of th carbon be doing something?


im at a loss, im loseing 1.5 fish a day as of two days ago... 2 neons, two cherries, and now my betta. any idea what could be happening?

 

[LauraFrog]

Crap, sounds like columnaris. Columnaris is a flesh eating bacteria.
Typical lesions are finrot - will appear as white lines often on the tail or pectorals (swimming fins) and eat its way towards the body so this could explain why the tetras had no tails.
It will appear on the mouth and eat back towards the gills - also classic, and one of the reasons why columnaris is sometimes called mouthrot.
And the saddleback lesion is another classic one, it is usually white and red and appears just in front of the dorsal fin.

You're probably going to have to get onto it with either antibiotics or a strong antibacterial med... I'd recommend antibiotics because in my experience salt, melafix etc. just aren't strong enough to kill columnaris. Tetracycline/oxytetracycline, streptomycin/kanamycin/endomycin/erythromycin etc - anything that says it is an antibiotic will kill columnaris.

 

[Duff83]

Crap, sounds like columnaris. Columnaris is a flesh eating bacteria.
Typical lesions are finrot - will appear as white lines often on the tail or pectorals (swimming fins) and eat its way towards the body so this could explain why the tetras had no tails.
It will appear on the mouth and eat back towards the gills - also classic, and one of the reasons why columnaris is sometimes called mouthrot.
And the saddleback lesion is another classic one, it is usually white and red and appears just in front of the dorsal fin.

You're probably going to have to get onto it with either antibiotics or a strong antibacterial med... I'd recommend antibiotics because in my experience salt, melafix etc. just aren't strong enough to kill columnaris. Tetracycline/oxytetracycline, streptomycin/kanamycin/endomycin/erythromycin etc - anything that says it is an antibiotic will kill columnaris.

thank you very much laura, ill have to look into that tonight when i get home.