Fish Color Question

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Hello. I am new here. How is everyone. I have taken care of fish many times before and never noticed this particular thing. I have a small 1 gallon tank with an undergravel filter system. I have two neon tetras and a chinese algea eater. They all get along fine. Its about their color. All three lose their coloring at night. Then in the morning after I feed them the color returns. Odd. The algea eater olny loses the black stripe on its side and is left with this funny dotted black patter on its gold skin. The two neon tetras lose all their color. Blue stripe and red belly. But like I said it returns in the morning. Has any one ever noticed this before. They seem very happy. No fighting. They all get along. They are well fed. And tank is always clean. Thank you for reading.

reb
 
Hi,

It is natural for fish to lose their colour at different times of the day so I
wouldn't be worried. However, Neon's prefer to be kept in schools of 6, so
this may be something you could look into in the future.
 
Hi,

It is natural for fish to lose their colour at different times of the day so I
wouldn't be worried. However, Neon's prefer to be kept in schools of 6, so
this may be something you could look into in the future.

I know the little guys would like more friends unfortunately I cannot afford the pricey tanks...and up here in new england they are pricey. They are happy though. They are always swimming around and they play with me when I put my finger on the tank they follow it. It was the color thing. I never seen it before thats why I asked. Thank god its not something bad. About a month ago they just got over the dreaded ick. But the color thing was happening before that too. Thank you for letting me know its normal.

reb
 
Hello. I am new here. How is everyone. I have taken care of fish many times before and never noticed this particular thing. I have a small 1 gallon tank with an undergravel filter system. I have two neon tetras and a chinese algea eater. They all get along fine. Its about their color. All three lose their coloring at night. Then in the morning after I feed them the color returns. Odd. The algea eater olny loses the black stripe on its side and is left with this funny dotted black patter on its gold skin. The two neon tetras lose all their color. Blue stripe and red belly. But like I said it returns in the morning. Has any one ever noticed this before. They seem very happy. No fighting. They all get along. They are well fed. And tank is always clean. Thank you for reading.

reb
Is this a wind up?

Losing colour is often a sign of stress. You have two neons in massively inadequate tank. They will also never flourish unless in a school of 6+. The chinese algae eater will reach 6" or more very quickly and gets really aggressive. You can not keep any fish in that tank, it's too small for anything. Your only option is a few snails and shrimps or to buy a much bigger one. Minimum 10gal if you want a community tank.
 
I'm afraid I didn't read your post properly. I thought it said you had a 10 gallon.
A 2.5 gallon should be the absolute minimum for any fish to go in for an exteneded
period of time.

Fishes colour does naturally change throughout the day, but only slightly. Drastic changes
are a sign of stress, if it's colour is persistently dull then that is a sure sign.
 
I don't know about the only slightly bit and the definate stress part.

My Pitbull Plecs gradualy change to a sandy duller colour when the rest on the playsand, but when they are in or on the plants or on the bogwood they resume their normal colour of brownish hazy stripe down the side and their greeny colouring comes back too.

Does it mean they are stressed everytime they are on the sand, and if so why do they stay there for so long.

Confused.


Some fish I agree. When I got my glolights (rehomed for someone), they started off just silver with dull orange stripe. now they have their stunning stripe and also the white tips to all their fins. Superb. And of course they are a lot braver now.
 
Well the color only changes at night. They have their brilliant color during the daytime. It only slighty changes. Like I said they seem happy. I know they are in a small tank. And when I have the money I plan on getting a bigger tank. Especially for my lil china algea eater. I know he is gonna get to be about 10 inches. And he needs space. I didnt know this when I got him. The color just lightens at night. Their color always returns in the daytime. They eat well. They swim all over the place. When I got them the seller told me it was ok to put these three in the tank I had. Yes its small. I plan to put a beta in there when I get a bigger tank for the other three.
 
I had neon tetras several years ago and when I drew the curtains in the morning, they were always brown. They changed to their normal colours within a couple of minutes. I was told at the time that this is a normal reaction - it was to make them less obvious to night time predators when the neons were "asleep" and couldn't swim away - probably a lot of nonsense! But the fish went through the colour change evey day.
 
most fish generally lose some color intensity overnight. it's just part of the resting phase. tetras are especially well-known to do this.

however, bottom-dwellers such as plecs and many predatory fish will also change their color intensity to match their surroundings.

faded colors are not necessarily indicative of stress in all fish, however fish which are typically colorful but appear "grey" (or black) are probably unhappy with their situation. i would also like to point out this is not the most reliable of standards since it relies on a precise knowledge of the ideal coloring for each fish, which is difficult to know if this ideal coloration has never been displayed.

reborn, i suggest that you take the CAE back to the store and just keep two neons in that tank until you have the money for an upgrade.

do you have a Petco or Petsmart near you? You should be able to buy a glass 10g tank for about $10, a Whisper internal filter for $15 and some sort of lid for about $10 (I have a mesh one for a reptile cage on my 10g). That's all you really need to set up a proper-sized tank for a small school of neons. Don't let them force you to buy an expensive flourescent light or anything; those are nice but you don't need one if you don't have live plants. Fish are generaly happy just swimming around in indirect light from a window or a table lamp. If you feel brave, then you can even skip on buying a lid since neons aren't particularly jumpy fish.

you may also want to get a heater, but you don't have to have one if your house is kept pretty warm (72 degrees or greater). with summer coming up, you might be able to delay purchasing a heater until things start cooling off again.

if you have a privately owned fish store around you, then ask if they can give you a good deal on a 'complete 10 gallon setup'. this should include a tank, a filter and a light fixture. most stores will also include a couple bags of gravel, a stand and sometimes a heater. this sort of package deal should cost $30-$45 dollars. if the store wants more than you can afford, see if you can get the set-up with just a lid and not a light for a little less money. you can also see about not getting the stand if one is included. however, if the store offers a 15g or 20g package that you can afford, then go on ahead and get that! the first rule of fishkeeping is get the biggest tank that you can afford and have space for. ;)

Whatever the store might tell you, you don't have to get an algae eater. Algae is a little ugly looking but it isn't actually harmful if you don't have any live plants; you also won't grow much algae if you don't have a light on your tank. if you do start to develop an algae problem in your tank, let us know and someone can send you some snails to eat that stuff up.
 
Thank you for all the remarks. It really helps. I hope that I can get a new way bigger tank soon. Waiting for dreaded taxes..haha. We all know how that goes. Any way. Again thank you very much.

Reb :D
 

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