Fire Bellied Newts

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This is a slightly sad story, but I hope it will have a happy ending.

Two months ago, work ordered in some fire bellied newts. No-one there knew anything about them other than that they needed some land in their tank, so when they came in, they were popped into the tank designed for those who like to spend time out of water . . . in the tropical section.

After a few days in the warm water, it became apparent that they were not comfortable, but we put it down to stress and maybe an illness that they came with. None of them died (yet) but their limbs were swelling and some had even lost hands/feet.

As time wore on, some were put into isolation with rather nasty wounds, even entire limbs missing. Some died. Eventually, we managed to convince the manager to let us put them all into isolation as none of them were doing well. The wounds have been (we believe) sucessfully attributed to the 27 celcius water they were living in.

Two months later, and the poor beasts have spent their days in a very small tank with no filter and weekly water changes. I've been doing water changes on all my shifts but as I work weekends, nothing gets done during the week as it really isn't most people's priority. Grrr! I've seen the ammonia and nitrites got well above 1ppm.

Anyway. As many of them have now stopped eating and are not regenerating their limbs properly, I've brought them home. The five survivers are currently in a 20 celcius tank on my bedroom floor, with a cycled filter and some big bits of wood to hide on/in/under. It's very basic and I'll need to work on the tank after Christmas, but at least they are in cool, clean water and in a much bigger tank.

My problem at the moment is getting them to eat. They are not taking frozen food and I can't get hold of live unless I order it online. Maybe just persisting with things like thawed bloodworm and brineshrimp is the way to go? What can I tempt them with? One of them is so thin that I can see all his bones. It's really worrying me.

Also, what meds are safe to use with them?
 
sounds like you have got quite a problem on your hands.Newts love Small earth worms and wax worms.I had sort of the same problem (the newt wasn't eating) I tempted him with hand fed live wax worms and earth worms and he eventually ate.I reccomend this website caudata

oh and don't worry newts can live for a month without food.
 
A couple of them are already dangerously emaciated, though. Pretty worried about them.

Thanks for the link. I've seen it before and got it bookmarked already. Good site.
 
Try a bait shop for some small live foods. I keep these guys on & off, often getting them in for club auctions. They do well in unheated tanks an inch off the concrete floor in my fishroom. They really don't eat all that much, feeding 2-3 times weekly is fine. Once you get them eating you should be able to feed them nearly anything, I've never seen them be fussy with food, but I've never kept them in a heated tank.
 
You can't keep them in a heated tank,they need 14-20 degrees celcius.Good that you changed there tank :good:
 
You can't keep them in a heated tank,they need 14-20 degrees celcius.Good that you changed there tank :good:

Yeah, this is what my manager found out. To cap it all, there is a stupid company rule that says we couldn't keep them in a cold water tank! Arg!

Glad I have them now.
 
Yea I hate it when stores do that,I saw one that kept them with fire bellied toads ,which are tropical and will attack the newts and drive them insane
 
Well, we got them through their first night! At least 4 of them seem to have eaten. One of the really skinny ones has a nice, full tummy now, although the other one doesn't seem to have eaten.

Got some more gravel and plants today so they now have some smooth, fine gravel on the bottom of the tank and some plants across the back. A couple of them got straight onto exploring, which was lovely to see.

In the long term, I want to actually build a land area, probably by siliconing a glass panel about 1/3 of the way down the tank and filling in the section with soil and stones, and then planting it up nicely. Not sure how I'll keep it damp yet, but I've got until after Christmas to work on that.

Will get some photos up soon.
 
that's good :good: you seem to be doing a good job,and fire bellies don't go on land much when they are adult.And gravel isn't a good substrate because the newts will swallow it or get cut by it,sand is much better.
 
that's good :good: you seem to be doing a good job,and fire bellies don't go on land much when they are adult.And gravel isn't a good substrate because the newts will swallow it or get cut by it,sand is much better.

Oh, I didn't know that. I'd read they like gravel better because they can get a better grip in it when walking.

I'll change it out when I next go to the lfs. I actually have some sand here, but it looks pretty grotty. Might use it though.

I got the super skinny one to eat! I have to put him in a tub FULL of brineshrimp, but he ate some. Yay!
 
That is a good start because that means he is probably not sick.try live daphnia,my newts love it.And newts only have problems with grip on a bear bottom tank,even then they don't mind to much
 
That is a good start because that means he is probably not sick.try live daphnia,my newts love it.And newts only have problems with grip on a bear bottom tank,even then they don't mind to much

He even hunted some food yesterday! YAY! Good boy . . .

Which reminds me, I need to sex them. FUN time.
 
I have sexed them before,you need to keep the water very cool and decent water conditions a from march to july.Pm me if you mannage to do it at the time :good: .
 
Some photos!

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