Fin rot question

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i went to my local petstore and they recommended maracyn for the fin rot that my fish have. he told me to treat the whole tank for 5 days and take out my filter cartriges so it wouldnt filter any of the antibiotics for the fish. now the directions say 1 tablet for every 10 gallons. i have a fifty five gallon tank. so should i add 5 or 6 tablets. 5 being for 50 gallon and 6 being 60 gallon but over the recommended usage. i added 5 because i didnt want to add 6 and it be too much for my fish. was i right or wrong. and should i have not removed the filter cartriges. and since i did , how long should i leave the filters out. my tank is real cloudy from the maracyn.
 
A couple of Q's.
1. What filter are you running?
2. how bad is the finrot?
3. what were your water parameters(Nitrite,nitrate, ammonia,ph etc) before adding the maracyn?
4.What are the inhabitants of the tank(how many and what type of fish) and what have finrot?
5. were you recommended maracy2 as well?

It is usual when adding any meds to a tank to remove any carbon filtration as the carbon removes any benefit from the med's. You could have halfed a tablet so you would have the dose for 55 not 50 gallons but it shouldn't make a difference.
the majority of cases of finrot etc are a result of a few things but the main one is "water quality". if the water is of poor quality ie to high a reading for nitrite, nitrate ammonia etc the fish start to get ill in various different ways and cant get better, thats why it is important to do regular water changes, clean the filter and vac' the gravel, also not over feeding. the resulting uneaten food and fish waste builds up the levels of toxicity in the tank water and willl eventually kill the fish if not sorted. It's not the only cause for fish problems but it generally is a factor somewhere although whatever you do fish can become i'll.
Might have been better to ask for some advice before you went out and bought the chem's m8 as their are other things on the market, as we aren't here to sell you anything you may have got something cheaper alternative and tips on what to do exactly, most of us have had this prob before so have tried a few different things so you get more than one "Cure" to think about.

Try to answer my Q's and watch for any secondry infection. We can give you better advice if you try and answer the Q's.
 
i recieved these fish from my mother a week ago. they had fin rot when they were in her tank and she thought that one of her other fish was beating the 2 black moores up. they had what looked like bites taken out of there tails. and 1 had skin missing from its 1 top half of its eye. so i took them home and put them in my tank which i change 25 percent of the water every week when i clean it. i just wanted to treat the fish and treat the tank so my other fish dont get fin rot. i have 1 pleco, 3 calico fan tails, 2 algae eaters and now 4 black moore's total.
i placed another post earlier this week stating my problem.
as far as my filter goes, i have a aqua-tech 30-60 power filter with 2 poly fiber carbon filter cartriges.
they only recommended maracyn to me. i did tell me mom to treat her tank as well and make sure she cleans it better. she cleans hers maybe once a month if that. so i know thats what probably caused it. her tank looks awful.
 
This is a very good reason why quarantine tanks can be a good idea, IMHO.

However, I'd treat this fin-rot/nipped fins, in the first instance with Melafix. It's particularly good at fungal/bacterial type infections like this. I'm currently treating two elderly cardinal tetras with Melafix, for a similar problem. They are better after only 2 days, but since they are so old, it might be in vain.
 
Do you know, what causes fins to rot?

There are several reason for this and only right treatment works:

chronic poisoning
ichthyobodo
ichthyosporidium
chilodonella
fin pestilence
fish tuberculous

Like Adeyc said, you must try to keep water values good  before using any medicine. Wrong medicine causes resistant bacteria. So, never try medicine or quess treatment.

And when you put medicine in your tank, you should put it enough like it said in instruction - too little causes resistant bacteria too!

EDIT. By the way, don't medicate whole aquarium if other fish don't need medicine. Medicate only the sick one..
 
maracyn is what i was recommended by our local fish store. i explained what happened and this is what he told me to do.i DID read the directions and it said 1 caplet for every 10 gallons. i have a 55 gallon tank and so the only way to get an exact dosage is to half a caplet. but i wasnt sure if it would be too little or too much for the tank. so i just added 5 caplets. the 2 moores look great so far and this only my second day of treatment. i keep my tank very well maintained with weekly water changes and water conditioner due to hard well water. my other fish i have had for over a year and never had any problems. i just felt sorry for these two moores in my moms tank and felt that i could help them. i really didnt think i was doing a bad thing. i have never had any type of diseases in any of my fish and i didnt know that fin rot was contagious to my other fish or i would have put them in a separate tank to treat them.
the fish store owner told me to just treat the whole tank as to make sure that my other fish did not contract fin rot.
 
It's good to know that medicine helps...

If there were 1/10g and you have 55g tank, i would put 6 tablet. Or like you say halve one tablet :)

the fish store owner told me to just treat the whole tank as to make sure that my other fish did not contract fin rot.

When fish is feeling ok,water values are right and good for fish and fish is well, it doens't get disease easily, like this kind of disease. Sure there is several disease which can be transmitted to other fish by water like ichthyophthirius multifiliis and the whole aquarium must be medicated. But if not, medicate only the sick one in quarantine tank.
 
so should i take the 2 sick fish out of the tank and just continue treating the sick fish in a separate tank and stop treatment in the tank with my healthy fish.

p.s. i posted this problem under coldwater and recieved only 1 response. 1 person just told me that fin rot was contagious and to see my local pet shop. so thats what i did :D i didnt want to wait till all my fish were sick and dying then treat.
 
No, no, no... You have already put the medicine in the tank, so keep them there :)

If the disease don't go away in one week, you know you have to use carbon filtration to filtrate rest of the medice away then. After that if the two ones are still sick, i recommend to put them in other tank, but not before the treatment is finished.
 
Normaly in a sever case I'd recomend using both Maracyn and Maracyn2. that way any secondry infections will be treated if they set in, on the whole for finrot Melafix is probably the best thing as it's natural and does seem to work well but in severe cases a stronger treatment is needed. To ammend MrV's post about the causes any bites and tears can also develop fin rot. If your algea eaters are of the siamese variety I'd keep an eye on them as they mature they tend to be teritorial and aggressive.
Not sure about the rest but I don't keep cold water so tend to forget it's there unless the newpost notification is lit, but I've been deleting a few cookies recently so nun have been on. Sorry
 
Yes Maracyn will make the tank cloudy and it will also kill off some of your good guy bacteria. So while using it and for a week or two after having used it make sure you keep an eye on your water peramiters. When ever using meds in a tank you should always take the carbon out so the meds don't get filtered out. If the Maracyn doesn't work get some Kanyacin as it will work on fin rot too. For a 55 gallon tank I would use 6 tablets as this will not hurt them any. I have been know to double the dose when needed with out any problems. Make sure you do the water change after 5 days and then do a second 5 days as this is what is normally needed to make sure the fin rot is totally gone. Rose
 
tomarrow is my 5th day of using maracyn. so i should change the water after the 5th day and do another 5 days of maracyn.
p.s. sorry i cant use capital letters or use a question mark. my 2 year old son dumped juice on my keyboard last week and now my shift, cap lock and lots of other keys dont work .
:grumpy:
 
also, last week i cleaned my tank and used my gravel cleaner and the usual bucket i only use for the siphoning of the water. how do i go about cleaning what i used to clean my tank with, so i dont recontaminate my tank when i go to clean it again. the net,gravel cleaner, bucket ect..

sorry for asking so many questions. i just love my fish and want to make sure i do everything right to keep them healthy :)
 
Theres not to much a worry with cleaning the equipment as it was fin rot.
But if you want Formailn is good. I use 30ml per 10litre bucket for a few hours ;)
 

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