fin rot not dying off after salt :(((

[Sgooosh]

Hi, it's been the third day of salt for my lil guppy (water changed salt with more concentration 2 times)
i changed 75 percent of the water with
0.4 heaped tablespoon/1 gallon
second time
0.6 heaped tablespoon/1 gallon

am i just too impatient, his fins are still rotting but at a slower pace but i can still see the white tint
ill post photos after this

 

[Sgooosh]

@Byron do you know anything about salt, i have read that it is a rather slow treatemtn

 

[Byron]

@Byron do you know anything about salt, i have read that it is a rather slow treatemtn

Follow the advice of others like @Colin_T who I know recommends salt for certain things. I'v never had issues requiring such treatment, fortunately.

While I'm here, you are certain the issue is fin rot? And not fin nipping? Very common with guppies it seems (nipped fins, I mean, and people thinking fin rot). Can also occur from water issues. And I don't know what all else.

 

[Sgooosh]

Follow the advice of others like @Colin_T who I know recommends salt for certain things. I'v never had issues requiring such treatment, fortunately.

While I'm here, you are certain the issue is fin rot? And not fin nipping? Very common with guppies it seems (nipped fins, I mean, and people thinking fin rot). Can also occur from water issues. And I don't know what all else.

fin rot, he only nips his friend
also i can see the white tint and some mucous, and ragged edged fin
probably water issues, another female got mouth fungus but melafix fixed it

 

[Colin_T]

pictures of the fish?

 

[TwoTankAmin]

Fin rot is often bacterial and in such cases that usually requires an antibiotic. Salt is more likely to be of help with fungal infections in fw fish. It is not uncommon for bacterial fin rot to be accompanied by a secondary fungal infection.

Generally, fin rot left untreated will tend to progress. Since you are in the states, you have access to pretty much any medication you might need for treating fish.

Medicating fish is neither simple nor easy because we hobbyists rarely have the ability to diagnose things on a laboratory level. More often we have to take out best shot. When it comes to antibiotics, here is a great read. It is pretty long but is not hard to understand for the most part. It is from the IFAS Extension of the University of Florida

Use of Antibiotics in Ornamental Fish Aquaculture by Roy P. E. Yanong
(This document is CIR 84, one of a series of the School of Forest Resources and Conservation, Program in Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, UF/IFAS Extension. Original publication date January 2003. Revised July 2006, July 2013, and December 2016. Reviewed December 2019. Visit the EDIS website at https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu for the currently supported version of this publication.
Roy P. E. Yanong, professor, UF/IFAS Extension Program in Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, School of Forest Resources and Conservation, Tropical Aquaculture Laboratory, Ruskin, FL 33570.)

Aquaculture of ornamental fish is a big business and we in the hobby cannot do what they can. But we can benefit from their eperience and methods.

 

[Bruce Leyland-Jones]

Hi, it's been the third day of salt for my lil guppy (water changed salt with more concentration 2 times)
i changed 75 percent of the water with
0.4 heaped tablespoon/1 gallon
second time
0.6 heaped tablespoon/1 gallon

am i just too impatient, his fins are still rotting but at a slower pace but i can still see the white tint
ill post photos after this

I believe that Aquarium salt WILL help with finrot and other skin/fin damages.

For those of us who swear by the stuff, a dose of 1tbsp per 5 gallons is a standard dose to sit in a tank.
For therapeutic needs, this would increase to 1tbsp per 3 gallons.

All that said, changes can take some time to fully heal up and would depend upon the general health of the fish, its stress levels and diet, etc., as well as the characteristics of tank mates, 'nippy' or otherwise. Fish can detect wounds and weakness and can exploit these.

NOTE my gallons are imperial

 

[Sgooosh]

Fin rot is often bacterial and in such cases that usually requires an antibiotic. Salt is more likely to be of help with fungal infections in fw fish. It is not uncommon for bacterial fin rot to be accompanied by a secondary fungal infection.

Generally, fin rot left untreated will tend to progress. Since you are in the states, you have access to pretty much any medication you might need for treating fish.

Medicating fish is neither simple nor easy because we hobbyists rarely have the ability to diagnose things on a laboratory level. More often we have to take out best shot. When it comes to antibiotics, here is a great read. It is pretty long but is not hard to understand for the most part. It is from the IFAS Extension of the University of Florida

Use of Antibiotics in Ornamental Fish Aquaculture by Roy P. E. Yanong
(This document is CIR 84, one of a series of the School of Forest Resources and Conservation, Program in Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, UF/IFAS Extension. Original publication date January 2003. Revised July 2006, July 2013, and December 2016. Reviewed December 2019. Visit the EDIS website at https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu for the currently supported version of this publication.
Roy P. E. Yanong, professor, UF/IFAS Extension Program in Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, School of Forest Resources and Conservation, Tropical Aquaculture Laboratory, Ruskin, FL 33570.)

Aquaculture of ornamental fish is a big business and we in the hobby cannot do what they can. But we can benefit from their eperience and methods.

so could EM ethyromycin from API be a valid option to treat this fin rot
can it go with salt?

I believe that Aquarium salt WILL help with finrot and other skin/fin damages.

For those of us who swear by the stuff, a dose of 1tbsp per 5 gallons is a standard dose to sit in a tank.
For therapeutic needs, this would increase to 1tbsp per 3 gallons.

All that said, changes can take some time to fully heal up and would depend upon the general health of the fish, its stress levels and diet, etc., as well as the characteristics of tank mates, 'nippy' or otherwise. Fish can detect wounds and weakness and can exploit these.

NOTE my gallons are imperial

i am increasing the salt to1 tbsp for 1 USg

 

[Sgooosh]

pictures of the fish?

Fin rot is often bacterial and in such cases that usually requires an antibiotic. Salt is more likely to be of help with fungal infections in fw fish. It is not uncommon for bacterial fin rot to be accompanied by a secondary fungal infection.

Generally, fin rot left untreated will tend to progress. Since you are in the states, you have access to pretty much any medication you might need for treating fish.

Medicating fish is neither simple nor easy because we hobbyists rarely have the ability to diagnose things on a laboratory level. More often we have to take out best shot. When it comes to antibiotics, here is a great read. It is pretty long but is not hard to understand for the most part. It is from the IFAS Extension of the University of Florida

Use of Antibiotics in Ornamental Fish Aquaculture by Roy P. E. Yanong
(This document is CIR 84, one of a series of the School of Forest Resources and Conservation, Program in Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, UF/IFAS Extension. Original publication date January 2003. Revised July 2006, July 2013, and December 2016. Reviewed December 2019. Visit the EDIS website at https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu for the currently supported version of this publication.
Roy P. E. Yanong, professor, UF/IFAS Extension Program in Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, School of Forest Resources and Conservation, Tropical Aquaculture Laboratory, Ruskin, FL 33570.)

Aquaculture of ornamental fish is a big business and we in the hobby cannot do what they can. But we can benefit from their eperience and methods.

I believe that Aquarium salt WILL help with finrot and other skin/fin damages.

For those of us who swear by the stuff, a dose of 1tbsp per 5 gallons is a standard dose to sit in a tank.
For therapeutic needs, this would increase to 1tbsp per 3 gallons.

All that said, changes can take some time to fully heal up and would depend upon the general health of the fish, its stress levels and diet, etc., as well as the characteristics of tank mates, 'nippy' or otherwise. Fish can detect wounds and weakness and can exploit these.

NOTE my gallons are imperial

here is bad video @Colin_T

 

[Bruce Leyland-Jones]

so could EM ethyromycin from API be a valid option to treat this fin rot
can it go with salt?

i am increasing the salt to1 tbsp for 1 USg

That's a long, long way from the doses I gave and it's really not likely to have much effect.

 

[Naughts]

NOTE my gallons are imperial

This will be the cause of the confusion.

 

[Sgooosh]

That's a long, long way from the doses I gave and it's really not likely to have much effect.

how much did you put in terms of USG?
my little guppy is pretty resilient
and the fin rot maybe is starting to fade???
the salt im using is based off of @Colin_T 's suggestions

This will be the cause of the confusion.

yeah....

 

[Naughts]

Colin's dosage instructions are good. 1tbsp/ 5 gallons, (if you only have livebearers 2tbsp/ 5 gallons) for two weeks.
Remember fin regrowth takes about a month.

 

[Colin_T]

1 heaped tablespoon for every 20 litres (5 gallons) of water is the base dose.

With livebearers you can increase it to 4 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres of water. However, the high dose rate can affect snails, shrimp, plants and is not good for softwater fishes.

 

[Sgooosh]

1 heaped tablespoon for every 20 litres (5 gallons) of water is the base dose.

With livebearers you can increase it to 4 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres of water. However, the high dose rate can affect snails, shrimp, plants and is not good for softwater fishes.

Mine is already 4 heaped per 20g
So its 0.8 heaped per gallon which for my spoon is a normal tbsp…
Sry if this is confusing but that is your suggestion just downsized