Female Platy Suddenly Dying

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This is quite sudden as she was fine last night. I have a female mickey mouse platy who is upright and breathing, but not swimming. Her head has turned a reddish color and she also has red streaks at the base of her fins. I don't know if it helps at all, but she's always had thick long poop, even when we medicated for it. Please let me know if you have any idea. We've had her for over a year and this is the first problem she's ever had. Thanks.
 
Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

It sounds like septicemia.
What colour is her poo.
 
Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

It sounds like septicemia.
What colour is her poo.

I thought it was bacterial, so I went ahead and started treating. All water stats are normal. We have two balloon mollies, four platys (including her), and a fifth baby platy in a breeding trap. Her poop right now is clear and a new bit just started coming out that was a blood color.
 
I put the medicine in about two hours ago (maracyn plus). It looks like it's already clearing up. I don't know if it's from the medicine or not, since that's pretty fast, but she's swimming a bit more. and the redness is lightening up quite a bit. Only thing is her red poop still. It's a huge chunk and it seems hard for her to get out. Should I feed a pea to help?
 
I put the medicine in about two hours ago (maracyn plus). It looks like it's already clearing up. I don't know if it's from the medicine or not, since that's pretty fast, but she's swimming a bit more. and the redness is lightening up quite a bit. Only thing is her red poop still. It's a huge chunk and it seems hard for her to get out. Should I feed a pea to help?

Do you feed any red foods like bloodworms.
Clear poo can mean the fish isn't eating or internal parasites, bacterial infection.

Signs of internal parasites are.
long stringy white poo or clear mucas poo, red poo.
Enlarged anus, red inflamed anus.
Fish will look skinny or bloated.
Sunken in belly.
Bent spine.
Worms prutruding from the anus.
Sometimes fish will swim on it's side.
 
I put the medicine in about two hours ago (maracyn plus). It looks like it's already clearing up. I don't know if it's from the medicine or not, since that's pretty fast, but she's swimming a bit more. and the redness is lightening up quite a bit. Only thing is her red poop still. It's a huge chunk and it seems hard for her to get out. Should I feed a pea to help?

Do you feed any red foods like bloodworms.
Clear poo can mean the fish isn't eating or internal parasites, bacterial infection.

Signs of internal parasites are.
long stringy white poo or clear mucas poo, red poo.
Enlarged anus, red inflamed anus.
Fish will look skinny or bloated.
Sunken in belly.
Bent spine.
Worms prutruding from the anus.
Sometimes fish will swim on it's side.

I feed frozen food a few times a week, but I don't think there are any blood worms. the food is a greenish color. Only the red spotting in the poop matches your list of symptoms.
 
okay I take that back. I believe we have a Camallanus worm... little red thread comes out when she's not moving. I'm going to assume she's hemorrhaging from that due to the damages it caused. From what I read, the maracyn plus should still help with the hemorrhaging since it's due to bacterial infections from injury. We're going to get medicine tomorrow morning. Can I combine the maracyn plus with the parasite medication? Also, do you have any idea how far along this is and her chances of survival at this point if the hemorrhaging looks like it's clearing up?
 
Need location for a wormer med.

Not sure if you can use bacterial meds with worming meds. Depends on which wormer it is.
 
Get you a link to camallanous worms.
Levaimsole a good med for camallanous worms.

Camallanus



Symptoms:

When the fish is stationary, deep red worms can be seen protruding from the anal pore. They are only visible when the fish is still because the worms retreat into the intestine at the fish’s slightest movement. Other signs may include an inflamed and enlarged anus. In severe infestations, the fish may become emaciated and spinal curvature may also occur.



Cause:

The parasitic worms Camallanus Cotti and Camallanus lacustris. These small, livebearing parasitic worms attach to the intestinal walls and rectum with pinchers. The worm’s grip is so tight that any attempts to remove it forcibly will rip away tissue from the intestinal wall. The worm’s pinching causes ischemia (reduced blood flow) to that part of the intestine. In time, the tissue to that part of the intestine will die, at which time the worm will migrate to another part of the intestine. This causes perforations throughout the intestine, which allows other pathogens to gain entry. If the fish is not treated, either the parasite or bacterial will kill the fish. Camallanus infestations occur most often in livebearing fish such as Guppies and Mollies, though infection is possible in all fish. Camallanus infestations are contagious. All fish, including those not yet showing visible symptoms, as well as the aquarium, should be treated.



Treatment:

Treat with Internal Parasite Guard, Pipzine, Disco-Worm, Trichlorfon or Fluke-Tabs as well as a medicated food to prevent a bacterial infection.
 
Thanks so much, we're about to head out to the store to get the medicine. The redness has cleared up a lot and she's started swimming around again, though much slower than normal. I just have two quick questions:
1) Do you know if frogs can be infected by this as well?
2) Is this medicine going to effect my snail? should I move him?
 
Thanks so much, we're about to head out to the store to get the medicine. The redness has cleared up a lot and she's started swimming around again, though much slower than normal. I just have two quick questions:
1) Do you know if frogs can be infected by this as well?
2) Is this medicine going to effect my snail? should I move him?


To be honest not sure about the frogs. Ask in the inverts section of the forum.
Also the med might kill the frogs aswell as the snails. They will need moving.
 
So, I treated for both the parasite and the bacteria. Today's the last day of the bacteria treatment, the parasite ended yesterday. Here's the awful part though: now that fish has the beginning stages of ich... do you think that's from the lack of filtration during treating? Should I do a water change tonight? How much? I don't want to stress out the fish too much...
 
it never rains but pours.
Whats your location as you can use some bacterial meds with certain whitespot meds.

The spots are they size of a grain of salt.
Whitespot looks like the fish has been sprinkled in salt.
 
it never rains but pours.
Whats your location as you can use some bacterial meds with certain whitespot meds.

The spots are they size of a grain of salt.
Whitespot looks like the fish has been sprinkled in salt.

honestly it's hard to tell because she is a white fish. I can only tell on her tail which has a couple spots. Now a problem is my balloon molly who is hiding in a cave and very low on energy, but doesn't have any spots on him. This is all ridiculous...I have no idea what to do... Should I just move them all to my other tank and medicate there while I completely clean out this one?
 

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