"endor" Llj's 36G Low-Light

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lljdma06

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I was up until almost 1am last night! I am tired!!! :zz

The final tank for a while. The 36g has been running for almost 3 years. At first, I ran it with CO2 and 1.8WPG of CF lighting. I later ditched the CO2 and things were fine as well, until I stopped doing regular water changes. You can follow its initial progress in the following thread, which I stopped updating in June, 2008.

<a href="http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=160962" target="_blank">http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=160962</a>

This tank suffered the same neglect that my other two did when I was working. I thought a rescape was in order but I didnt want the same lighting levels I had in the past. This would just get me into trouble again when I started work and couldn't perform regular water changes or add CO2. You can see in the above thread, I went back and forth on it quite a bit. I also wanted a substrate change.

I thought I'd have to mail order everything, but on a whim I went to the PetsMart and Petsupermarket. I found a cute little T-shirt for my dog and pretty much everything I needed to rescape this tank! Saving me a load on shipping. Sometimes you can get very lucky. Don't knock your big chain store all the time, if you know what you're looking for, you can find some amazing deals.

Using an old light fixture, I now have the following specs for this tank, which is why I decided on the new journal as this is a very different direction from it's previous setup. Granted, filtration and the basic substrate didn't change, and I didn't strip down or clean anything but hardscape and plants.

Tank: 36g corner bow, 21" deep, 24" radius
Lighting: An old 24" 2x14W T5 fixture with reflectors. Giving me .77WPG.
Substrate: Took advantage of 3 years of tank waste and capped my current substrate with a thick layer of very fine white sand from Carib sea.
CO2: None
Fertilisation: Rootabs when I remember. I also have Seachem Flourish standing by incase I need it.
Hardscape: Several pieces of Mopani interlocked together. Some of the wood is new, so I expect tannins and hopefully I won't get the yucky white stuff, but you never know.
Plants: Cryptocoryne spiralis, C. lutea, C. wendtii "bronze", Anubia species, Echinodorus species (red melon, red rubin, ozelot). I'm taking a risk with the new swords. There is conflicting information about their care. The current swords in the tank are doing great, but they are not the same species.
Livestock: Barbus titteya, Hyphessobrycon species.
Maintenance: For now waterchanges 2x a week. I got things very dirty, and I'm wary of an ammonia spike. Hopefully by Summer's end, this will calm down and I can eventually reduce it to every two weeks.

This is an experiment to see just how low light I can go. I think this will help members here regarding other planted tank options. I have some plant species that I know will do well, but I've also added some that are more "iffy" so I can see exactly what I can get away with. I'm using T5s with reflectors so that will help considerably and I'm actually surprised how bright the lighting it compared to the CF bulb I was using before. For less than half the lighting 65W vs 28W, it is only a little less visibly bright.

Growth will be slow. I'm expecting this, and I also expect some of the usual crypt melting and the swords will be transitioning from emersed to submerged growth. These transitions will take time at these lighting levels. Since the plants are from a Floridian nursery, they won't have to adapt to grossly different water conditions, so hopefully the crypts will not melt too badly. What I want is healthy growth and living plants that I can maintain with a hectic schedule.

This isn't the final plant list. Once these plants adapt and I see that all is clear, I'll be ordering some Bolbitis heudelotti and weeping moss to add to the scape.

This isn't the final livestock list either. I'll be keeping about 7-10 cherry barbs and finding new homes for the rest of the fish. Many of these fish were around from three years ago when I wasn't especially confident with mail order fish and I had to settle for the fish from LFSs. While lovely, they are your usual species and I'm not that into them anymore, especially tetras. I've a soft spot for the cherry barbs, which I raised myself and do not look like LFS fish. The new sand substrate begs for corydoras, but the tank size will also lend itself to a small loach species, which I have never tried. A larger oto school will also do well. This, of course, all hinges on whether I can find good homes for the fish. If I can't, the stocking will remain the same.

I've yet to attach my anubias, so I will post pictures when I'm finished. The water will be cloudy for a day or two. Can't wait to post pictures, I think you'll like it. If this works, you'll get a sense of how low light you can truely go with good lights. My goal is for this to be another long-term scape. I'd like to see how the plants develop over the course of years. I'm excited. Any thoughts are always appreciated.

thanks for looking. :good:

llj
 
Finished with the anubias, though I'm not happy with them. I want a continuous flow and right now, they are kind of all over. I also took some photos. Water is still cloudy, but you get the picture. I've probably got a bacterial bloom now, so I'll have to do a water change Monday.

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It is difficult to scape a bowfront. I think I'll have to work on the wood some and reposition some plants, but I want to get them growing first.
 
It is difficult to scape a bowfront. I think I'll have to work on the wood some and reposition some plants, but I want to get them growing first.

I completely agree with you mate; its what puts me off keeping one in later years :(
 
It is difficult to scape a bowfront. I think I'll have to work on the wood some and reposition some plants, but I want to get them growing first.

I completely agree with you mate; its what puts me off keeping one in later years :(

I know, right? The tank was a gift, so I'm stuck with it for a while or the family gets majorly insulted. I prefer long, shallow tanks.

The water is much clearer today. I may take more pictures, or play with the anubias a bit, then take more pictures.

llj
 
Looks good so far! I like it.

Thanks! It's still quite new, so I'll see where the scape goes. Right now, Aaron's recent purchase of some botia striata reminded me about that species, so I've considered a few changes. Maybe swapping out the swords and anubias and giving the tank more of a SE Asia feel with more crypts, aponogetons, and mosses. I think that would be pretty sweet. And my sand is really fine, great for loaches and I can keep most of my cherry barbs.
 
Well, I was arm-deep in water again! Swapped out the swords and added more crypts. The water is clearing up, but I have some pictures of the plants that I purchased at petsupermarket of all places.

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The wood is releasing a lot of tannins and I suspect there is some melting with the older crypts, but that's to be expected, I saw new root growth in the crypts I had to shift, so I'm not really worried. I will be extra cautious about an algae-triggering ammonia spike, so lots of water changes until things calm down.

As soon as the tank clears, I'll post more tank shots. It looks pretty good, very "wild" looking. Can't wait to see this in a year.

llj
 
Tank isn't quite clear yet, but it is better and the sun has set. Here are a few photos.

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It doesn't look much different, but you can tell that there are no longer any swords. Barring the anubias, it's all crypts.

Making me, the crypt keeper. :lol:
 
Making me, the crypt keeper. :lol:

:lol: I do like it better without the Swords actually! Didn't think I'd say that because I really like them. :good:

Thank you. I like it too. The tank is a week old. Nothing horrible yet. I did notice a slight icky smell when I did my first water change, but that was not present during the second water change of the week. No white fuzzies on the wood. There is some crypt melting, but I'm not especially worried and I see a few new leaves and root movement towards the lower substrate and all of its mulmy goodness. The C. lutea is particularly perky and the lone Aponogeton has a flower stalk.

Some clearer tank shots.

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Okay, they look pretty much the same as the last update, just clearer. :lol: I swear, they are different pictures. You can really see the water moving in some of the shots. I'll be upgrading one of the filters soon, which will improve circulation and move the downgraded filter to the 20g.

Granted, the tank will probably still look like this 6 months from now. :lol:

Thanks for looking,

llj
 
I upgraded the filtration today. I went from an Aquaclear 70 and an Aquaclear 50 to two Aquaclear 70s.

I notice a difference in the plant motion already. Much more swaying going on.

llj
 
Awesome tank! Lovin' the crypts and even the wood. The fish really stick out in the darker setup.
 

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