Dying Fish!

Yraelle

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I set up a new 60l biorb and left it 8 days before putting in 3 guppies and 8 days later 9 tetras (on the shop's advice), one guppy had died prior to my adding the tetras, and another on the day I added the tetras and the other guppy followed in the next two or three days. After 3 - 4 days the tetras started dying too.
Someone told me that the first fish are "sacrificial fish," and that I could expect them to die in short order because they were setting up the bacteria, so I half expected it, but not for it to continue like this.
When there were 4 tetras left (out of 9), I added 3 molly's (the shop kindly gave me replacements for the 3 guppies), having been told that they are hardy fish. Two of them are now dead too. The last molly - a white one spent 2 days drifting vertically at the top and had a red area on her tail which wasn't there before. 2 of the guppies also did this before dying, the tetras did not. One of the 3 molly's hid a lot, only coming out at feeding time and late at night. The black one just seemed to go from perfectly fine to dead - no floating in the bubbles.
All seemed perfectly fine for a few days with all of the fish, then they started living in the bubbles at the top of the tank, bubbles formed/stuck to their bodies.
Two different shops checked the water before I added the 3 molly's and they said that there was a small amount of ammonia, but otherwise it was okay, not enough of anything to cause the fish to die. I did a partial water change as soon as I got home, and have
changed approx' 6 - 7l of water each week and dechlorinated it. The last partial water change was yesterday.
I fed them once a day on flakes, the water temperature is a constant 25.4 deg' with no living plants in the tank.
The biorb is new, but the volcano and some plants are second hand.
I can't begin to tell you how upset I am. I never expected to become so attached to them, and so quickly. All 15 fishes have now died and I am at a loss as to what to do.
Thank you for your help, it is most appreciated.
 
Hi, and welcome :) Have a look here, some good reading for new fish keepers http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/277264-beginners-resource-center/ i recommend reading the fishless cycle
 
Hi & welcome :)

Sorry to hear you've lost your fish,has Mr spoon has mentioned,have a read up in the beginners section about the nitrogen cycle etc.

The lfs has given you bad advice and hasn't explain how the nitrogen cycle works,all your fish probably died through being poisoned by ammonia,that is naturally produced by the fish breathing,peeing pooing etc.

The best way from now is to go fishless cycling :good:

Good luck :)
 
Hi, and welcome :) Have a look here, some good reading for new fish keepers http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/277264-beginners-resource-center/ i recommend reading the fishless cycle

Thank you very much, I will do as you suggest. I found a lfs with much greater knowledge. I had the water tested and yes it was high in nitrates and had some ammonia - all despite regular water changes. So I have been advised to do a 75% water change, change the filter and use some general tonic in case there was also a disease problem. I will have the water retested on Thursday, and will see what to do then.

Hi & welcome :)

Sorry to hear you've lost your fish,has Mr spoon has mentioned,have a read up in the beginners section about the nitrogen cycle etc.

The lfs has given you bad advice and hasn't explain how the nitrogen cycle works,all your fish probably died through being poisoned by ammonia,that is naturally produced by the fish breathing,peeing pooing etc.

The best way from now is to go fishless cycling :good:

Good luck :)


Thank you, please see the reply I've written to Mr Spoon. I hope to have some fish that survive soon! Will keep you posted!
 
also, now that you are on the right track for cycling, stocking should be addressed - - 15 gallons/60 liters is small for mollies which can grow to be about 4-6" inches. your best bet is to return the mollies and possibly the tetras, cycle, then stock with slim bodied mid-range fish. top and bottom dwelling fish do not do well in an orb shaped tank due to the lack of naturally preferred swimming room....

2 schoals of 6-8 tetras would look amazing in this type of tank though! (or even one shoal of the same tetra!!!!) their slim bodies, bold colors, and quick movements are very pleasing to the eye in this kind of tank!
 

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