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If you love Russian roulette, skip the revolver and just buy a cheap aquarium heater. Same odds, but instead of a bullet you get boiled sushi.





Let’s review:





  • Strip thermometers: Ah yes, the “mood rings” of fishkeeping. Accurate to within plus/minus three degrees and a prayer. Sticks to your glass like a leech and comes off like a divorce.
  • £12 bargain heaters: Perfect if your hobby is gambling with corpses. Nothing says “responsible fishkeeper” like betting your £200 stock of danios, shrimp, and barbs against a plastic rod with wiring thinner than angel hair pasta.







Reviews don’t lie:





  • “Woke up, fish cooked.”
  • “Temperature spiked, tank iced, RIP.”
  • “Out by 5°C but looks nice on the shelf.”







If you read those and still hit Buy Now, congratulations: you’re not a fishkeeper, you’re a serial killer with Prime delivery.





Meanwhile, for the price of a takeaway curry, you could get an Eheim — the heater that actually works, instead of starring in a crime documentary about “The Boil of 2025.”





Moral of the story?


Stop being stingy. You wouldn’t put a Poundland life-jacket on your kid and push them into the sea. So don’t strap a crap heater into your tank and expect Nemo to survive the sauna.





Choose wisely. Or your next tank photo will come with flowers. 🪦🐟
 
Heaters. I use them as rarely as possible. No device has killed so many fish in my time in the hobby as stuck or failed heaters. I trust them about as much as I trust preachers or youtube miracle fishkeeping systems presenters.

They're simple technology. I have a couple here I've retired out of caution, old green eheims, that ran perfectly for 15 years. So it is possible for them to be safe and reliable. I have some fluvals that I don't fear (but check regularly - daily). The expensive ones fail by turning off, and the cheap ones fail by staying on. I'll take a temp drop over boiled fish.

I disagree with @Tankyou so much because a cheap out on a heater won't get you flowers. It gets you soup.

I had one of the American heaters zap me once - it leaked current into the tank and gave me a really painful shock. It wasn't the cheapest model, either. That hurt.

Death, taxes and shoddy heaters. Such is life.
 
I have had Eheims fail within weeks and cheapie emergency purchases work flawlessly for 10 years or more.
I don't trust any heater and all my tanks have a backup controller - with 2 heaters attached.
Heaters are correctly calibrated and so are the controllers. To make soup two devices would have to fail simultaneously.
I could get cold fish if the controller failed, but since these have bright red LED screens they are easy to check daily.
 
I did the same thing as seangee. I had two heater failures in which they got stuck full on. I also know that heaters are the least reliable piece of equipment we put into tanks. Controllers are a decent solution but they are not foolproof, They too can fail. However, I had abut a dozen controllers working on tanks. When I downsized I sold 5. Since then I had my very first one fail.

Failure in this instance meant it stopped turning the heaters on and off it just let them stay on. But I bought most of my controllers quite a few years ago.

I also had no choice as to using them or not in most of my tanks as the fish I kept and bred were from places where the water is warm, it can even creep into the low 90sF. I kept most of the tanks at between 28C and 30C. My controllers were in C even though I live my life in F.

I had two heaters wipe out all of the fish in one tank and all but the plecos in the other.

Equipment failure is something that we all have to be prepared to handle. Filters, pumps, lights, chillers etc. etc. all can fail. What really matters most is how quickly we learn about a failure and deal with it.

I have used a variety of heater brands. In 2001 I felt Ebo Jager was the best brand to buy. I had one run for 19 years.. But things change and so did the quality of Ebos since they were acquired. Incidentally, the two failures I had were different name brands. The result of it all was for many tanks I selected my heaters by price. The less expensive the more I like them. However, there is a limit. I bought about a dozen really cheap heaters online from a reputable seller. They worked poorly. I use almost all heaters in a horizontal set-up close to the bottom of the tank.

The heater I got would not go on and off in the position. They worked OK when vertical and even angled a bit. But beyond the bit they quit. Cheaper heaters tend to be longer than the pricier ones. I use long shallow tanks and often divide them using a Poret sheet foam. I want a heater on each side of the divider. These heaters would only fit horizontally and vertically were too long. I have a box of them I would sell for $25 :p

The most reliable heaters I have used and I still have 3 of them, are the Hydor Inlines. I had 3 running at one time. I use them with canister filters. I have had one fail, the very first one I got in about 2003. It failed in the past year. Fortunately, I can afford to put some extra equipment on the shelf. I grabbed a couple of extra Hydor Inlines when they were on sale some years ago. I try to stock spare parts as I also try to standardize my Equipment. It is what I love about Aquaclear hang-ons. A lot of the parts are used on more than just one model. At my peak I has 28 of them in all sizes running. I still have 12 in use.

I bought a lot of the AquaTop heaters from kensfish a number of years back when they were fitst sold there. They were very cheap. I sill have many of them today and they were a decent deal. They are as reliable, or moreso, as the pricier brands.

For those who might be interested in an inline heater, Hydor makes a 200w and a 300w. The 200w has 2 models which have different diameter hoses. https://hydor.com/products/eth I paid a lot less than they cost now. I should note that in a bigger tank I will use both a Hydor and an in tank traditional heater.
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Failure in this instance meant it stopped turning the heaters on and off it just let them stay on. But I bought most of my controllers quite a few years ago.
That's why I still calibrate the heaters. I set mine to turn off one degree higher than th controller, so if the controller doesn't turn it off the heater should still turn itself off.
 
Where you seeing AI (which is not currently against forum rules, if you read them. That needs a decision and a good diagnostic tool).
 
Where you seeing AI (which is not currently against forum rules, if you read them. That needs a decision and a good diagnostic tool).
The main post by the OP reads clearly as AI for anybody in the know.
You can also use one of the many AI identifiers on the internet and get a clear answer.
GPTzero for example says this was likely 100% written by AI.

Look at the formatting. Clearly generated by AI and sloppily pasted. They didn't even bother to format it.
 
Can you identify if a person used AI to clean up their writing, as opposed to using it to think?

To me, there's no issue with using it to improve style. But again, the ownership of the forum hasn't created guidelines to say no, so while responding to it may not work if it's AI, it isn't barred. There's been no incentive to become 'in the know'. For me, this is the only internet forum where I discuss with strangers. If the forum allows it, that's the choice.

At least your question was answered.
 
Can you identify if a person used AI to clean up their writing, as opposed to using it to think?

To me, there's no issue with using it to improve style. But again, the ownership of the forum hasn't created guidelines to say no, so while responding to it may not work if it's AI, it isn't barred. There's been no incentive to become 'in the know'. For me, this is the only internet forum where I discuss with strangers. If the forum allows it, that's the choice.

At least your question was answered.
Yes, I can.
 
Heaters ? In all of my checkered career as an aquarium / fish keeper I’ve never had any problems with any of them . I consider aquarium heaters to be one of the most reliable aquarium devices of all , along with diaphragm air pumps but you have to treat them right . Unplug them when doing water changes and pay close attention to water level because even submersibles have a no go limit . Don’t use too small of a one in a big aquarium and don’t use too big a one in a little aquarium . And don’t knock them around !
 

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