Do U Think Water Condit. Really Neutralizes Tap Water "instantly&

[Coomon10]

Well as I understood it from previous threads... The conditioners have 3 purposes:
1. Remove Chlorine- which we know stays only for a short time, so can be forgotton
2. Removes Chloramine- well my water isn't chloriminated
3. 'Neutralises' heavy metals present in tap water, that can lead to health issues in fish- not sure there is a another way/products to do this?

I wish I could trust not to use de-chlorinator... I spend a fortune on it!!

There is a thread called 'Water conditioner' (from within the last 1 month) which has some interesting info/links to other threads where people say how they use pond conditioner and different products...

 

[jayjay]

I use pond dechlor, works the same as the normal dechlor I used to use.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

I use dechlor now but I don't worry about it too much. Not that I advocate doing this and I don't do it anymore, but when I first started keeping fish I was pretty naive and I had tanks running for about 3 yrs without ever using dechlor. Yes I had the occasional death but if it was the chlorine you would imagine there would be some collation between the changes and the deaths and there weren't any. I just didn't even know you were meant to add it but it never seemed to do them too much harm.... but without carrying out autopsy's on any dead fish how can you tell for sure so I wouldn't like to say for definate that it wasn't hurting them, but I don't think it's as essential as people make out.

 

[k.o.d]

A lot of it is down to volume, and age of the tank, also metal toxicity is directly linked to water hardness, the harder the water the less toxic effect there is

Chlorine ( and chloramine ) is inactivated by organics in the tank, so that is less of a problem than they would have you believe, but new tanks need dechlorinating for that specific reason, they are very clean.

Heavy metals, lead and copper pipes will get an oxidised layer on the inside of the pipe once they have been up and running for a few weeks and that does not get into the water, I believe lead is similar.

The other heavy metals come from the water courses themselves and fish already live in them.

Pond dechlorinators work pretty much exactly the same and if you can buy it cheaper in bulk it is worth doing.

 

[iamwhoiam]

I wish I could trust not to use de-chlorinator... I spend a fortune on it!!

Seachem's Prime.... 1ml treats 40 litres (10G)
100ml bottle costs £3.99 .... that's a 100 water changes for me for about two quid a year =]
...even cheaper in big bottles... but why bother?!?

 

[Coomon10]

A lot of it is down to volume, and age of the tank, also metal toxicity is directly linked to water hardness, the harder the water the less toxic effect there is

Chlorine ( and chloramine ) is inactivated by organics in the tank, so that is less of a problem than they would have you believe, but new tanks need dechlorinating for that specific reason, they are very clean.

Heavy metals, lead and copper pipes will get an oxidised layer on the inside of the pipe once they have been up and running for a few weeks and that does not get into the water, I believe lead is similar.

The other heavy metals come from the water courses themselves and fish already live in them.

Pond dechlorinators work pretty much exactly the same and if you can buy it cheaper in bulk it is worth doing.

So in essence are you saying you believe that a 'mature' tank is able to 'deal' with the chlorine, chloramine and heavy metals itself?

 

[k.o.d]

Not just me, the FBAS say that too, the mature tank will inactivate chlorines in tapwater.

The internal walls of copper pipe etc become coated with an inert scale after a while, again, not recommended with new houses.

Companies who manufacture tapwater conditioners want to sell as much to the public as possible to keep profits up.

Mineral rich lakes and streams abound, why dont the fish die off in them??

Personally I use RO and waste from the RO to do my water changes so they have been carbon and HMA filtered before it reaches the tank, but I know the people that dont use conditioner and their fish are thriving.

 

[SamUK]

i once forgot to dechlor and dont normally add it till the tanks refilled and ive never had a problem.


i kno someone else who doesnt use it at all either.


still gonna keep using it myself tho (if i remember lol)