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silvershark

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ok so i get my new tank within a week and i wanna keep discus in it as its a large and deep tank, so i've been trying to do all sorts of research over the last month or so.

However all i've got is confliting views on them, everyone is contradicting each other and i cant find a steady base to do proper research.

i know a lot of it is down to personal experience but i'm not willing to start a discus tank up untill i can do it properly...

anyone know of a good site that'll give me something to start my research properly without a discus war breaking out?!
 
i dont know how to pin a thread but if you type discusfishuk.com/forums, you should get to the atlantis aquatics web site, theres a forum on there which i use. theres not loads of poists but good info. HTH. chris

How big is your tank?
Ive kept discus since b4 xmas, very enjoyable but boy ive still got a lot to learn!!
 
I'm in the same situation myself; want to keep them but SO much conflicting advice out there. Web site above is one I've been on and found it useful.
Anyone know of any more?
 
ive just did a search on google, ive never been on this one but is has links to other site as well. Great Lakes Discus, Discus Fish Breeder.
 
its about 34" wide by 27" deep and 15" deep. the info i want is everything!!!

whats a better substrate for discus, sand or gravel?!
whats the optimal temp?!
how hard should the water be?
what ph is best?
how do i lower/higher the kh and gh accordingly?
will some black neons and c sterbai be happy in there? or should i aim for summin else?

and what the fudge am i gonna do if they breed?!?!?! :blink:

i've got conflict between all of these and really would like someone from this forum to tell me how they've "kept discus for years like this..." as i only seem to trust you guys! i know its daft but trust is something that has to be built up if you ask me!
 
hi~guys...i am a new member and read this post
i have a gd site i read before but in chinese...
will u need it?
 
didi said:
hi~guys...i am a new member and read this post
i have a gd site i read before but in chinese...
will u need it?
um i cant read chinese!! but if there is an engo version i'd love to read it!!
 
I keep 2 discus tanks, 1breeding and 1 display

My display tank is a 300ltr/66gal juwel rio.
Water peramiters are PH6.4 KH 2' temp 29'C.
Decore, sand, bogwood and plants.
Water change 20% every 4rd day.

My breeding tank is a 100ltr/22gal homemade tank.
Water peramiters are PH6.4 KH 2' temp 29'C.
Decore, pot to spawn on and 2 potted echinodorus barthii (no substrant)
Water change 50% every 3 day.

A fine substrant (ie sand) is best, becarse it limits the amount of mulum that gets trapped under the surface, basicly cleaner, just desturbe every once in a wile to stop it compacting and going anarobic. (problem is with growing plants, you need fast growing ones that draw most of there nutrients from the water)

You could keep a bare bottom tank as some prefer, i think elgeco keeps his that way ( less pollutants, cleaner water, better looking fish? personaly i'm not sure about this, as i have both, and both show good colour, i think its all a matter of husbandry and taste, i'm not argueing ether way)

Temp is 27'C to 30'C to the higer end for breeding (depends breeding pair)

According to steve punchard the KH and GH should be kept some where between 0' to 12' the lower end to breed, all thought they have kept at higher.

PH depends on your local supliyer, best thing is to have a word with who you intend on buying your fish off, and match there water peramiters, then you can alter it slowly if u wish.

As for KH and GH the best thing is reverse osmoses, you can controle your water peramiters exsactly then.

What fish? some people like to keep discus on there own, but if not, rummynose, black neons, cardanals tetras are all favorites, also corys are ram.

I've read about lots of people that do keep and breed discus in tap water, which is fine if your blessed with perfect water, but most of us arnt!
I found out the hard way, when i first started keeping discus, that they tend to die after a wile, this is becarse of the varing levels of desolved solids, (ie metals etc) that weakens there amuine system.

Best advise is get an RO unit, if you look after the water the fish will look after them selfs, most problems in the tank are carsed by poor husbandry, or adding fish or items that havent been prossesed properly. "this was the advise given to me by "Steve punchard" when i first started keeping discus"

Sorry if you already know all this :D
 
cheers sb!!

i didn't know all of that and its a great help!! how long have you kept discus?

i was considering the RO unit actually but dont know all the ins and outs of the end product, i'll start my research right now tho!!!

thanks everyone!
 
silvershark said:
cheers sb!!

i didn't know all of that and its a great help!! how long have you kept discus?

i was considering the RO unit actually but dont know all the ins and outs of the end product, i'll start my research right now tho!!!

thanks everyone!
About 2 years now, and still learning.

just got my first breeding pair, its realy frustrating, they've layed there 3rd batch of eggs and eaten them again arrrr! painfull to watch. :crazy:
Theres hope yet, there young fish so it could take them a wile to suss it, then its on to the next hurdle hatching and growing on. :)

it will be worth it though :D
 
Thats a very comprehensive post SimonBrown403 :thumbs:

To be very honest, my last water test kit ran out about a year and a couple of months ago and my discus havent noticed yet (dont tell them!)

The key I have found, is selecting the Discus, and just as importantly selecting who is selling you the Discus. The variance of quality and care of Discus is staggering. The best shop I've been to do not keep their Discus in almost compete darkness with barely room to move through plants etc. They are instead kept right at the front of the shop, and are easy to observe over a few weeks once you have found the fish you want. They should not be shy, healthy Discus only get frightened by sudden movements. If you approach the tank slowly, they should want to check you out and eyeball you.

Ask to see them feed, a healthy fish will be a greedy fish. Never buy without seeing the fish eat, they are notorious hunger strikers when upset.

Avoid fish that use only one gill, or one pectoral fin, look skinny, have over large eyes, are dark in colour or sit at the filter inlet. If a fish in the tank has any of these symptoms or any stringy bits hanging out of anywhere, dont buy from that tank.

Try to match the paramaters in the shop, if you can keep it stable over a few months at whatever pH and hardness the shop keep them at you have very good chances of suceeding once you keep it matched to the shop and not necessarily to the books. But try it before you get the fish, not after. Many a Discus has died screaming 'just leave the bloody water alone fer fecks sake!"
 

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