Deformed Guppies, "special Babies"

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Beginning of this year, my guppy, (who i thought was a male, just turned out to be a tiiiiny female that got in with the males at my lfs) gave birth. I managed to save 4 of the kids when i noticed she had popped, then shortly after giving birth, she died, of what I later found out was fish tuberculosis. It also wiped out my entire guppy stock, who were all living in the same 10 gallon. The 4 kids were doing alright, since I have never dealt with fry of any sort, I will say, in retrospect, my care was less than. They got fed powderized flake food, whenever i got around to feeding them. They have been acting normally, have grown a little bit, all of them reached a different, but still puny, final size. The largest one is probably about a quarter-inch long. The tiniest one, almost still fry sized, died after looking peaked for a few days. The other three looked too small for me to even attempt gendering, but now I think they are two females and a male, since the two bigger ones look pregnant. Oh god. I can't even imagine what the fry might be when they are so micro themselves. I am not a livebearer person, I tried it once, and it is just not for me. But I feel somewhat committed to making sure these guys stay ok, since they require things slightly different than most fish. I just don't understand why these guys are sooooo tiny. Was it the inadequit feeding of the mother (didn't know she was even a mom until right before she gave birth, it was a busy tank and she hid a lot, can you blame her, in there with 9 guys?) was it inadequit feeding of them at birth? (didn't know much about fry, i was also rather new to fishkeeping, and had virtually no time what with school) or could it be that the mother had tuberculosis? maybe they are resistant to TB what being born carrying it, but it just horribly deformed them? I mean, they are devoid of color, miniscule, and the male is kinda mis-shapen.


I just can't bring myself to mercy kill them, they live in a really poor setup as of now, because i cant afford a tank for them (the tank the guppies were in was completely sterilized and revamped after the TB strike, and now is a betta divided tank) and I just do not have the money or room to buy them their own tank. They, quite honestly just live in a gallon bowl. They eat tropical flakes just fine, and I clean them regularly. I can't give them to the pet shop, all of my lfs's are just in it for the business, and you can't sell midgets. Other fish would easily eat them, and what if they DO carry TB? Plus, any filter that wasn't a sponge would just suck them right up.


On one hand, I feel like a terrible person just keeping them in a bowl. But, in my mind it is a lot kinder than killing them, and I want to keep them forever isolated from other fish.



Woah, I wrote a book! Didn't intend to. Any advice or input would be GREAT. Thanks in advance, especially if you read all of this.
 
How old are they and when you say they look "mishapen", can you describe their appearance? Is their spine bent at all?
I've had fry born from a guppy infected with fish TB as i have also dealt with the terible desease in the past, and i found that the fry infected with it also suffered growth problems and did not live very long- very inbred fry can also often suffer from poor growth and body development and usually do not live long too.
 
They have to be several months old, pushing on a year if I had to estimate. The smallest one, presumably male, his spine is bent downwards like his TB mother. The other two, who i think are girls, look like big healthy guppy fry, but fry nonetheless. Completely clear, and tiiiiiiny.
 
They have to be several months old, pushing on a year if I had to estimate. The smallest one, presumably male, his spine is bent downwards like his TB mother. The other two, who i think are girls, look like big healthy guppy fry, but fry nonetheless. Completely clear, and tiiiiiiny.

The bent spine one has TB, although until any symptoms develop in the others apart from their size its hard to say, i would though euthanise the bent spine one though, as the others may still not be infected while he is, and he may pass on the TB to them.
Fish with TB will inevitably die either way, its not a nice way to go for them as the desease attacks their muscles and grinds down their imune system, cause curvature of the spine and muscles and poor imune system- either the TB itself will kill them or other deseases will as their imune system breaks down.
 
If you dont have the time or the money for them you could see if anyone on here does and let them adopt them. I would be interested but i would not have the money to pay the shipping. So think about that! I know you dont want to kill them but you could give them away to someone who has the time and the money to take care of them. Keep us updated!
 
I think I am going to at least separate the one with assumed TB from the other two for now. I just feel terrible putting them down when, aside from the one bent spine, they show no signs of illness. Do you think TB would really let a baby fish live for a year? I put them in the gallon bowl just to keep them well out of the way of my healthy 9 bettas, 2 frogs and 3 goldfish. I did not expect them to live even a few weeks. I would be more than willing to buy them a proper setup if there is a chance they are going to lead healthy lives. I would also be more than willing to ship them out to a good home, and pay the shipping.
 
Hate replying to myself, but I know there was expressed interest in rehoming these little guys. If someone here wants them, free shipping would definitely be no bother, because I just want them to be happy for the end of their probably short lives.
 

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