Cycling versus bicycling

GaryE

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Today is National Hang on the Back Filter day at my house. I've scavenged all the parts I can from HOB filters, and there is nothing left to rebuild with. So today, I receive two no known name Chinese filters and two used Aquaclears, a 1200 and a 70.

All of my tanks under 75 gallons have air driven sponge filters of various sorts, and with regular water changes, they are healthy environments with long lived, breeding fish. I'm happy with how they work, cycle wise.

I like fish from rivers though, and the cycle alone doesn't cut it. Power filters serve a useful purpose for my flow and current loving fish. I have all sorts, brand names, no names, canisters, HOBs, home made internal filters, undergravels... if it works, I keep it working. My longevity filters are aquaclears. In spite of their tendency to need a manual restart after power cuts, they're great. Usually at about 15 to 17 years of continuous use, they've needed to be combined - the parts from 2 or 3 filters become one and I get a few more years. That process has reached its end, as all the parts I have here have worn out.

A second type of HOB I like is a no name I'll never see again. A local store that went under in 2016 imported them for a decade and sold them under their own brand. I bought a bunch of these then $16 filters, rated for 50 gallons, and ran them on 20 gallon tanks for about 18 years max. They started dying at 12, and where I had 10, I now have one. They far outlasted the marinelands I had - proof that being well made beats being well branded every time.

And so, today, the newest no names will get the media from oft repaired filters and be running by this evening. The used Aquaclears are from a guy who just built a central sump system, and are still only 2 or 3 years old. They'll be workhorses. I'll keep scouring the used equipment listings online, and try to add a few more. When you enter my fishroom, you see a tank running on a 1970s aquaclear that came from a barn sale of stuff from an aquarist who died in the early 1980s. It sat in a box for decades, being perfectly good and from the look of it only used for a short time. Granted, it was boxed for around 40 years, but it runs like a charm, as antique plastic.

I pick my filtration for the fish in the tank, and for their needs. That, and I'm a cheapskate too.
 
I thought maybe you were calling me out on Mrs. e-trike, from the title of the thread😉

be careful with your address, @GaryE ... or "someday" you'll find a big box of the newer generation of aquaclear filters in your driveway... I have my last Tidal coming on my next Amazon order, and that will replace my last antique double filter, the aquaclears have all ready, all been replaced... the self start feature has proven itself worth it, allowing me to water change 1/3 of the water, in my tanks, without having to restart my filters... I typically run 2 HOB's per tank.. my small tanks just run sponge filters, so 7 bigger tanks, each with 2 filters is 14 filters... too many to have to restart them all, in the 20 minutes it takes me to do power water changes now... bulky filters, take up a lot of space, to keep around for "someday", and I can't make myself throw out the old Magnums, that I also still have... @GaryE ... "someday" they may find a way to your fish room....
 
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I haven't tried Tidals. They're around, but in our times of trade wars, they're a US company. All these devices are probably made in China, but local stores aren't embracing them with Fluval being Canadian owned. Things hit the fan right when the Seachem products came into our market.

I appreciate that thought, a lot. I keep getting requests for fish from US hobbyists, but navigating the border is impossible. They'd be hung up for days, and the costs would be crazy. Even dry good type things aren't as easy as they were. I think we're stuck just sharing information and online friendships, which could be a worse situation to be in.
 
A lot of Fluval products are also Italian manufactured. We're at the point in our new world where consumers won't buy a product because of the parent company's location, so sellers don't want to be stuck with them. There be politics involved.

Plus I've never seen a cheap Tidal. They're too new. I'm a filtration scavenger!
 
I have a couple of aquaclear but decided long ago i didn't like them and when tidal came out - i was done with hobs. I mostly use sponges of different sizes and canister filters or sump for aquariums too large for matten.

However having read a lot there are three models of hob that seem to be very popular aquaclear, tidal and one from marineland (though one of there models is a dog).

The deal breaker for hobs occur on a 40b where it would dump water into the tank creating all sort of issues - this was about 10 years ago - eventually i replaced it with a eheim classic 2227 (another dog i would not recommend but very popular); i have my complaints with fluval but to be honest they always answer my emails with decent repsonses and their equipment has been very durable (and lets not forget their fish food) also when i had needed warranty service even a few days after it expired they have responded without issues providing replacement parts (the motor on my fx6 went bad after 3 1/2 years - warranty was only 3 years).

tidal is suppose to be good but i don't see a reason to experiment with one. Having said that don't get me wrong sponges are not a perfect solution as they do sometime require cleaning and these larger sponges are no fun to clean.

At least for the 650 i'm planning i will just recyle the water through 'filtration' - i.e, use a 10 to 20 gph drip system and the water will then go through a purification process and be reused as fresh water (sediment filter, uv filter, ro filter). As i write this i keep thinking wouldn't it be nice if i could automate this for all my tanks - after all it beats cleaning 20 13x16 sponges much less the 18x24 sponges.
 
I was thinking motorcycling, but I can't picture @GaryE on a hog wearing one of those German pilot helmets with a big chrome spike on top.

I'm a cheapskate 'recycler' too. Give me duct tape and a hammer and I can fix anything.
 
I was thinking motorcycling, but I can't picture @GaryE on a hog wearing one of those German pilot helmets with a big chrome spike on top.
Huh. I'm one of those guys your conspiracy uncle warned you about. From the middle of a city, my favourite car was a Toyota Tercel, my bike has ten speeds and my favourite helmet was for hockey. I rode a dirt bike once, around the block to try it. It got me from here to there, but there are better ways to do that.

Some of these smaller HOBs have a modification I like. I took flat green 3M scrubber pads and super glued them onto the outlet. I then attached some java moss to them. As the filter runs, and pours out onto the pad, the java moss grows like crazy in the outlet without getting too much direct light. It forms clumps the size of a grapefruit which I harvest and use for breeding. Zen and the art of HOB maintenance. That's my kind of machine.

I'm into glue gun ownership.
 
This is a NO CYCLING zone. There is an inch of ice. Bike+ice = yuck.
 

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