Crypt Melt

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Hey guys. Thinking of doing a fairly significant re-scape in my tank that would require me to move a couple of crpyts around. Is there a chance they would suffer from crypt melt or does that only occur when they move to a new tank? Thanks.
 
Hey guys. Thinking of doing a fairly significant re-scape in my tank that would require me to move a couple of crpyts around. Is there a chance they would suffer from crypt melt or does that only occur when they move to a new tank? Thanks.
im not completetly positive but that did happin to me when i moved some crypts around. wihin days they were dead. it might have been that they were in differnt light though.
 
Hey guys. Thinking of doing a fairly significant re-scape in my tank that would require me to move a couple of crpyts around. Is there a chance they would suffer from crypt melt or does that only occur when they move to a new tank? Thanks.
im not completetly positive but that did happin to me when i moved some crypts around. wihin days they were dead. it might have been that they were in differnt light though.

My Red Cryptocoryne doesn't melt when I move it around the tank. I only move it a couple inches here and there but it looks great. In my experience they WILL melt almost all there leaves when moved to another tank. Every Crypt plant is different though. I try not to move mine to much for fear that it does melt.
 
I've been keeping cryptocoryne wendtii for around 20 years (same line) i tend to find that yes moving them dose cause them to melt but areound 6 weeks it's fine again, i also find that it dose not like being on it's own they want to stay in groups if u replant 1 on it's own and another in a small group the one will always suffer more.....

Or am i just mad?
 
Mine don't mind being moved around the tank too much. I try not to keep them out of the water for any length of time though, Just enough to trim the roots (makes them easier to replant)
 
This is another of the open ended answers with no actaul yes/no. lol

Crypts can suffer crypt melt when moved within the same tank. Why. Noone knows. Does it happen to every crypt. No some people say they regularly move their crypts with no problems even from tank to tank.

So we can say that Crypts don't always melt when moved wether it is within the same tank or to another tank.

My theory is that Crypts are highly susceptible (as is Blyxia) to changes in their environment. My guess is that when you buy a crypt it normally (but not always) melts when you plant it in your tank. I beleive that this is because your tank water, substrate, lighting etc is different to what they had prior.

When you move a Crypt from one place in a tank to another place in the tank you may say the substrate is the same, the water is the same and the light is the same. Nope you are wrong. Substrates are very different in different places. Some fish may like a particular spot and therefore they will disturb that spot or poop in that spot etc. Also the plant may have been next to a stem plant and is now next to a plant with a large root structure like Echinodorous. Therefore this may be a change in the nutrient or even oxygen available in the substrate.

Even with high turnover of your filter there can be 'dead' spots in the water where the nutrients are not as good as other positions. There will be many differing qualities in the circulation within your tank and the circulation will transport nutrient at differering quantities to different places. This is the continous fight we try to sort out. How to ensure that nutrient (including CO2) delivery is as consistent as possible.

With the light the amount will be incredible different positions. The light is small. the footprint is much larger. the water can be a barrier, other plants can be a barrier. diagonally the light has to travel further etc. for example if you have only 1 crypt in your tank and it is directly under the centre of your tube. It receives the max light it can get through the smallest amount of water. Move it to the front or rear corner. No it is not under the tube and the light is coming through a larger amount of water. This is why all tanks are darker in the corners. This is not as noticeable in higher light planted tanks but it is still true.

So in summary I think it is changes in parameters that affect Crypts. I think theses changes are unknown and some people are lucky enough in that there isn't a significant enough change when they do move their crypts. Do I think they like company.lol. No I think they prefer to be planted as you bought them in a clump without spereating them or you are making a change!!! I seperate them because I want the effect that gives. So mine rot yes.

Can I prove any of this? No it is all pure speculation from my experiences and reading others. Not factual at all, only theory. What are the facts? The fact is if your crypt does rot don't worry remove all the rotting leaves as you see them and then let it regrow.

Andy
 
I was doing some pruning over the weekend and I removed a lot of the plants in order to do it, now while I misted them all while they were out of the water (like a good girl) some of them have lost their lower leaves now I've put them back in.

I wonder if it's the same thing with crypts, they're happier the shorter the time they're out of the water. It might explain the differences people have when moving them around in a tank. If you were doing a full re-scape a plant could be out of the aquarium for some time whereas if it's just that plant that you're re-positioning then it may not even come out of the water.

Just speculation of course, maybe something to investigate the next time I pull out the crypt runners. (specimen A never left the water, specimen B was out for 5 mins, C for 10 mins, D for 1/2 hour... Z was left on the windowsill overnight as I forgot it ;) )
 
I moved my crypts around two nights ago. Not seen any melt as yet (touch wood)

yeah, i did my heavy re-scape yesterday. I left my big crypt where it was (didn't want to risk it as its huge and has gorgeous brown leaves) but i moved his neighbors to the other side of him. 1 med size plants and 4 or 5 daughter plants with 5-6 leaves each. We'll see how they do. If they die, I'll just replace them. Not a huge deal. It will be worth it as i love my re-scape.
 

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