Coral Beauty With Ich

[smokinjoe2122]

Ok, I made the mistake of not QT my Coral Beauty. In 2 days it's been eating like crazy, but developed what appears to have Ich. Like I said, it is healthy, but it rubs against the rocks every once in a while, and the Ich is noticeable on it's head. Should I move it to my 10 gallon with the reef lobster, or should I leave it in the tank. Would it make difference at this point to move it to another tank, or would it stress the fish more. I have been feeding twice a day with garlic extract. What should I do at this point? Please don't take any shots, I already learned my lesson.....

 

[injektion]

we'd have to know if you have any other fish in the tank with the same symptoms, any corals in the tank, and water parameters. in my experience ich starts off from the fins and onto the body (although i doubt these little pests care where they start).

if there are corals in the tank, treatment can be a little more difficult.

 

[smokinjoe2122]

I tried to take some pictures, they dont help much. The small white specs are so small they don't show up on camera. Would the Ich parasite be larger than this?? When our butterfly in our previous tank got Ich (And died), it was very noticeable. Also, I thought he was scraping against the rocks, but I just noticed him doing the same thing to try to fit intbetween crevices to get algae. I don't know at this point

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The specs are mostly on his head and a few on the tail.

No there are no corals in this tank. 2 other fish, a six line Wrasse and a False Perc. Clown. Both are super healthy and show no signs. The CB seems very healthy (At this point) as well. I do have inverts in the tank. CC star and pincushion (Variegated) Urchin, plus the clean up crew.

 

[milkton]

I tried to take some pictures, they dont help much. The small white specs are so small they don't show up on camera. Would the Ich parasite be larger than this?? When our butterfly in our previous tank got Ich (And died), it was very noticeable. Also, I thought he was scraping against the rocks, but I just noticed him doing the same thing to try to fit intbetween crevices to get algae. I don't know at this point

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The specs are mostly on his head and a few on the tail.

No there are no corals in this tank. 2 other fish, a six line Wrasse and a False Perc. Clown. Both are super healthy and show no signs. The CB seems very healthy (At this point) as well. I do have inverts in the tank. CC star and pincushion (Variegated) Urchin, plus the clean up crew.

is it just me, or is there not ick? Couldnt spot any, .

If u really do have ick, copper treatments would NOT be a good solution, try looking into boosting the immune system of the fish.

 

[smokinjoe2122]

is it just me, or is there not ick? Couldnt spot any, .

If u really do have ick, copper treatments would NOT be a good solution, try looking into boosting the immune system of the fish.
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The first 2 days it had grain sized spots all on it's head and they looked bad. Now they are completely gone and it's eating regularly. I've still watching out for any symptoms. If nothing more happens in a few days, I'll delete the post if I can.. Thanks!

 

[injektion]

ich can go away sometimes but just because it's not on the fish doesn't mean your tank doesn't still have it. they stay dormant on the sand until it can host itself onto fish again. but i'd say keep with the regular feeding with garlic extract and just be extra observant for the next couple of weeks (yea those pesky things can stay alive for quite a while).

good luck

 

[seffieuk]

ich can go away sometimes but just because it's not on the fish doesn't mean your tank doesn't still have it. they stay dormant on the sand until it can host itself onto fish again. but i'd say keep with the regular feeding with garlic extract and just be extra observant for the next couple of weeks (yea those pesky things can stay alive for quite a while).

good luck

I think what you meant to say was that ich drops off the fish and goes into the sand as part of life cycle

However, if the fish wasn't

Saltwater Ich (Cryptocaryon) Life Cycle

Cryptocaryon Biological Cycle

by Stan Hauter
The Saltwater Ich or White Spot Disease (Cryptocaryon) parasite has 4 distinct phases in its life.

1. Tomont Stage
Trophonts which have burrowed into the gills & formed cysts, protected by gill mucus.
Trophonts can live in the cyst embedded in the gills almost indefinitely.
No effective treatment at this stage.

2. Trophont Stage
Tomont cysts have been discharged from the gills.
Can survive for 6 to 10 days in the cyst.
Hyposalinity (Osmotic Shock) and some chemical treatments are effective in exploding the cyst and Tomites.

3. Tomite Stage
Parasites (Tomites) discharged from the Tomont cyst and become free swimming.
Tomites can survive for 1-2 days before they must find another host.
Hyposalinity (Osmotic Shock) treatment effective in exploding the Tomites.
Many chemical treatments effective at this stage.

4. Trophont Stage
Tomites which attached to the fish's gills feed from the host, grow, form a cyst and become dormant.
Tomites which attach to the fish's surface feed from the host, grow, detach from the fish and go to the Trophont Stage 2.
Hyposalinity (Osmotic Shock) treatment effective in exploding the surface cysts.
Some chemicals effective in treatment of surface cysts at this stage

Most (wild captured) fish carry the Cryptocaryon parasite in the their gills in the Tomont Stage 1. A vast majority of Saltwater Ich outbreaks occur when new fish are introduced into an aquarium. The stress generated by capture and shipping is one of the main causes of the cysts in the gills being released, generating Trophont Stage 2.

The gill mucus encasing the Cryptocaryon parasite in the Tomont Stage 1 renders most, if not all treatments, virtually ineffective at this stage.

Hyposalinity (Osmotic Shock Therapy) and chemical treatments are most effective when the Tomites (the actual parasites) are most vulnerable, during their free swimming stage. Hyposalinity literally explodes the Cryptocaryon cysts in Trophont Stages 2 & 4, exposing the Tomites to both chemical and further Hyposalinity treatments.

Seffie x

 

[smokinjoe2122]

Wow..Very indepth.. Kinda scary... So at this point, should I continue to monitor or take action? Still feeding with garlic extracts and doing 15-20% water changes every couple days....

 

[milkton]

Wow..Very indepth.. Kinda scary... So at this point, should I continue to monitor or take action? Still feeding with garlic extracts and doing 15-20% water changes every couple days....

well garlic extract is just rumor, it may be true, it may not be, it hasnt been scientifically proven yet. just continue to monitor and if anything shows up, u could try settin up a QT tank but still i recommend boosting the fishes immune system with liquified nutrients, cause in the sea, their natural home, they live with ick. Its just that they like where they live (without stress) so that they could fight off the parasite by themselves.. also liquified nutrients also provide nutrients found in food in the sea.

 

[AK77]

Wow..Very indepth.. Kinda scary... So at this point, should I continue to monitor or take action? Still feeding with garlic extracts and doing 15-20% water changes every couple days....

well garlic extract is just rumor, it may be true, it may not be, it hasnt been scientifically proven yet. just continue to monitor and if anything shows up, u could try settin up a QT tank but still i recommend boosting the fishes immune system with liquified nutrients, cause in the sea, their natural home, they live with ick. Its just that they like where they live (without stress) so that they could fight off the parasite by themselves.. also liquified nutrients also provide nutrients found in food in the sea.

As you have other fish in the tank, there is a chance that the condition will worsen, as the more tomites that infect the fish, the more cysts will develop and burst, thereby producing more tomites, increasing the chances of infecting the fish even more. Its when this happens that the fish weakens and begins to lose its appetite.

Personally I would move the fish to a QT which is medicated. Raise the temperature in the display tank to about 80F which will speed up the life cycle of the parasite. When the water born tomites cannot find a fish to infect, they will eventually die, which will render your aquarium ich free. In the mean time the parasite will be killed by the medicated water in the QT which will make your fish ich free. Leave your display tank void of fish for about 4-6 weeks and you should have no more problems.... unless of course you don't QT any new additions.

 

[injektion]

yea i was going for that seffie lol. i think i type faster than i think so i miss out on key points. btw love the picture the parasites look like confetti