co2 help

Jen

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I made my recipe as usual... 2 cups sugar, 1 teaspoon yeast, and water. I hooked it all up, and after 2 hours no bubbles... and the mixture seemed to turn into nothing but froth on the top.

Any thoughts? Could my yeast be dead? Was the water too hot?
 
How big was the bottle you used?
1 teaspoon of yeast may be too much.
I use a 600ml, a 1 l and a 2 l bottle for my mixes.
The 600 ml bottle I use 1 cup sugar, approx 1/8 teaspoon of yeast.
The 1 l mis I use 1 1/4 cups of sugar and approx 1/4 teaspoon of yeast.
And for the 2 l mix I use 2 1/2 cups of sugar and 1/2 teaspoon of yeast.

I've found that in my mixes that too much yeast always causes that froth to form in the bottle.
 
I use a 2 litre pop bottle. I started with 1.5 tsp of yeast, but it was giving me too much mg/l of co2, so i've been cutting back every time to find the right mix.
 
I would guess it's a leak. Maybe redo the sealant on the cap. I've botched the seal before when removing the cap for a CO2 change.
 
I have it hooked up to a air line splitter, and I had shut it off for a day or so until I could buy more sugar. I went to look at the bottle on monday, and the froth was all gone. I turned the hose back on, and the bubbles that came out!!! I couldn't believe how long they came for. I quickly threw an airstone in and let it run for a day to make sure the levels didnt stay high for too long.

I'm going to take it as dying yeast. This is twice in a row now that the mixture didn't act right. It's also the second time that I didnt use any bi-carb. Maybe I'll try that again next time to see if anything changes
 
Just out of curiosity, are you using yeast packages or the jar? Are you storing it in the fridge or the cabinet?
 
Am I reading this right? Did you close off the splitter valve so that no gas could escape the fermentation bottle? If you did then you were VERY lucky that you didn't end up with a yeast surprise. The suprise would have been just how far an exploding bottle of yeast mixture can throw its contents! Even if you are sure that the yeast is dead you should never shut off the escape route for the CO2. The pressures produced by yeast can be increadibly dangerous. If you think the yeast is dead dump the contents or leave the top of the bottle open.
Moving on, if you came back to the yeast and there was a pressure build up like you say then the yeast was not dead. Yeast is a living organism that is stored in a near suspended animation state. It needs time to get going (just like me in the morning). You may have inadvertantly killed off a lot of the yeast with too high a water temp or something. If any yeast survives the initial cause of the die off then it will quickly start reproducing and soon you'll have a nice healthy colony again. Obviously the more yeast the faster the CO2 is produced. This is probably why there appeared to be no CO2 production to start with but then when you returned to the bottle it was under pressure.
When I used to use CO2 I would initially leave a freshly made up bottle with the top off for 24 hours to allow the yeast to get going. It would froth loads and I often got froth coming out of the top of the bottle. Once it subsided I'd attach it to the system and leave it to get on with its job. I never had a problem with failed yeast cultures.

WK
 
Waterloo Kid said:
Am I reading this right? Did you close off the splitter valve so that no gas could escape the fermentation bottle? If you did then you were VERY lucky that you didn't end up with a yeast surprise. The suprise would have been just how far an exploding bottle of yeast mixture can throw its contents! Even if you are sure that the yeast is dead you should never shut off the escape route for the CO2. The pressures produced by yeast can be increadibly dangerous. If you think the yeast is dead dump the contents or leave the top of the bottle open.
Moving on, if you came back to the yeast and there was a pressure build up like you say then the yeast was not dead. Yeast is a living organism that is stored in a near suspended animation state. It needs time to get going (just like me in the morning). You may have inadvertantly killed off a lot of the yeast with too high a water temp or something. If any yeast survives the initial cause of the die off then it will quickly start reproducing and soon you'll have a nice healthy colony again. Obviously the more yeast the faster the CO2 is produced. This is probably why there appeared to be no CO2 production to start with but then when you returned to the bottle it was under pressure.
When I used to use CO2 I would initially leave a freshly made up bottle with the top off for 24 hours to allow the yeast to get going. It would froth loads and I often got froth coming out of the top of the bottle. Once it subsided I'd attach it to the system and leave it to get on with its job. I never had a problem with failed yeast cultures.

WK
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nice post WK, that makes a lot of sence. i'll be leaving the top off for a day now.
1 in 4 times i get froth up the tube, right pain in the rear.
thanks
 
Yes, I realise that I shouldn't have turned off the flow for the co2... but was thinking that I was going to go back and disconnect it right away. In the past, the co2 has started reacting within minutes, and when it took 2 hours, my plan was to dump it and start over again. I noticed the froth, came here and posted, and then got caught up in whatever I was doing, and forgot about it. I would never intentionally leave it plugged up like that... I know how bad that can turn.

I've never had this froth problem, so I'm thinking the yeast is on its way out.
 

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