Cloudy water

rdd1952

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The water in my 29 gallon tank stays somewhat cloudy most of the time and even has a light film on top. My parameters are great: ammonia, nitrite =0, nitrate = 7.5, pH = 6.6. What causes that? I don't have test kits for phosphate, KH or GH. Is that something I need to be testing. My 2.5 gallon is crystal clear but also has the film on top. Parameters there are the same except pH is about 6.4. This is the tank with the corys and the substrate is sand. Could the corys be keeping it slightly stirred up?
 
You know, I've been having the same problem with my 20 gallon for some time now. My newest ploy is to add a couple of fast-growing plants to the tank in the hopes that this is a very light case of algae and the plants will suck up the nutrients and clean up the tank. But I'm with you -- I don't know what the cause is. My tank has almost the same parameters as yours, and all of the fish are happy and healthy.

-- Pamela
 
I have so many plants in mine that once they mature, I will probably be over planted (only had the tank for a little over a month). The water was crystal clear for a long time and this has just started a week or so ago. I guess it a combination of me doing water changes and vacuuming the plants and bottom and the corys rooting in the sand. The fish are doing great. I am fighting a blue green algae problem but I have that in the 2.5 gallon to and it hasn't affected the water there.
 
I have had the same problem for over a month. All my parameters are fine too yet the tank gets cloudy a day after water change and stays that way. Its clear immediately after the water change but the next day it gets cloudy again.
 
I haven't had the cloudyness but I did have the film in my tank a while back. If you increase the surface agitation it will dissipate. If you have a power filter (HOB) you can just decrease the water level in the tank slightly and the surface agitation will break up the film. I believe the film is made up of disolved organics. My water parameters were fine as well so it can happen to well maintained tanks.
 
Aha! In just one week, my water has gone from cloudy (couldn't quite see the back of the tank) to almost crystal clear. I can tell you what I did, but I did so much in one week that I'm not sure what worked!

Last weekend, we took a trip to the fish store. DH has desperately wanted an African Butterfly Fish since we set up the tank, but I wanted to let the tank mature for several months first.

We bought a 2" ABF and a 3.5" weather loach (impulse fish!). We also got a bunch of ghost shrimp (I can't remember how many -- 8? 10?) since "something" ate the last group a few months ago. (We think it was the African frog, which has since found a new home.)

Some of my plants had been pulled -- I couldn't keep up with the anacharis, and the bacopa had started to die since I'd drastically reduced lighting in an effort to get rid of the cloudy water. (Didn't work.) So I bought a myriophyllum. Pretty, and it's supposed to take a lot of its nutrients from the water column.

We got home, I vacuumed the tank and planted the myrio, and we acclimated the fish. For the next three days, I did small partial water changes (maybe 15%?) and vacuumed the gravel. At the same time, my new clean up crew was going nuts. Those shrimp are always moving. Plus the weather loach likes to look in the substrate for tasty morsels other fish have missed.

I dropped the water level another inch or so for the benefit of the ABF, so no more film. (Thanks for the tip, BobK.)

The myrio is very perky (although sometimes uprooted, due to Mr. Loach -- he likes that plant a lot!), and the water is much cleaner now. I suspect that the plant contributed significantly to the water quality.

The other thing I did was to increase the lighting period from 7 hours to 8 hours, but I broke it up -- 4 hours on, 4 hours off, 4 hours on. My goal is to work my way up to about 10 hours on while adding more bright light plants, and to gradually make it a 10 hour period with no "off" time. But I had read in someone else's post that the on-off thing is fine for fish and plants, but murder on algae. (It's also nice for us, since no one's really in the same room as the fish mid-afternoon!)

Anyhow, I know that a lot changed in a short period of time -- a good plant, some bottom feeders, lighting change -- but wow! what a difference. I thought someone might be able to try one or two of these ideas and see a difference in their own tanks. Good luck!

-- Pamela
 
Thanks for the tips... having the same probs so will try your methods.

Curious - do you have any CO2 being injected in the tank?
 

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