Bulging Eyes

[Rodger Dodger]

Help,
One of my Maylandii lombarda has got bulging eyes, fins close to it's body. Doesn't look too happy.
Any ideas what this could be or what has caused it?
being fed Tetra Pro vegetable and Aquarian Herbivore flake. Never had this before
All help would be appreciated as I don't want to lose any more of my fish.

 

[chishnfips]

when you say "any more fish" has it happened before with the same symptoms? Sounds like an internal bacterial disease of some sort, could be pop eye, but I think there is another disease that does the same thing and gets the fins and things too. I wouldn't like to say exactly what it is, do you have a pic of it?

 

[Rodger Dodger]

Sorry my mistake, no other fish are showing any symptoms at all

 

[chishnfips]

could also be to do with stress, does it get picked on alot? you could try just using some anti bacterial meds like melafix I dont usually mess around too much with different meds as they can do more damage than good if you dont get the right one.

 

[dthoffsett]

Do you have a hospital/QT tank? It would be best to separate him so the other fish don't get sick, and so he doesn't get picked on becasue he is sick.

Could you list any more of the following info?

Tank size:
pH:
ammonia:
nitrite:
nitrate:
kH:
gH:
tank temp:

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):

Volume and Frequency of water changes:

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank:

Tank inhabitants:

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration):

Exposure to chemicals:

Digital photo (include if possible):

 

[Rodger Dodger]

Do you have a hospital/QT tank? It would be best to separate him so the other fish don't get sick, and so he doesn't get picked on becasue he is sick.

Could you list any more of the following info?

Tank size:88 gall
pH:7.8
ammonia:0
nitrite:0.2mg
nitrate:5mg
kH:
gH:
tank temp:26.7

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):Bulging eyes with whiteish surrounds(like specs)

Volume and Frequency of water changes:12galls every week

Chemical Additives or Media in your tankcean rock no additives

Tank inhabitants:A.beanchi x3, A.Sulphurhead x3,Red Kadango x3, C.afra Red Dorsal x3, L.Hongi x3, P.Acei x3, P.Elongatus red x3, P.crabro x3, P.boadzulux 3, S.Ahli Electric Blue x 3, M.Lambarda x2


Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): none

Exposure to chemicals:none

Digital photo (include if possible):

 

[Rodger Dodger]

Just dosed tank with Melafix hopefully that will sort things out with another 6 days of treatment.

 

[chishnfips]

could be cloudy eye aswell, if its starting to get whiteish at all, but I think its more or less similar treatment. Good thing about melafix is that you cant realy overdose on it as its totally natural.

let us know how you get on.

 

[Rodger Dodger]

Hi chishnfips The eyes are going down, not as bulging as last night, seems much happier, fins ok, feeding ok.Will carry on with the treatment until the 6 days are up.

Thanks for all your help. Do you think I have overstocked? I run a Rena XP3 and Ehiem 2028 pro together.

 

[chishnfips]

hi mate thats good, am not sure about your stocking am still getting to grips with stocking for mbuna, but you do have a lot of fish in there it may be a factor in it, I am getting a 70 gallon tank and can stock it with about 15-18 mbuna so..... probably depends on what species you go for.

Ferris is the lord and master or dthoffset will help you out on that bit.

glad to hear its heping though.

 

[dthoffsett]

Thanks for all your help. Do you think I have overstocked? I run a Rena XP3 and Ehiem 2028 pro together.

What size tank (gallons and dimensions) and what stocking do you have?

 

[chishnfips]

his tank size and stocking are a couple of posts up

 

[dthoffsett]

his tank size and stocking are a couple of posts up

Call me blind, I completly missed that.

I'm a little concerned That you are showing nitrite Rodger. How long have you had the tank set up. You should be changing around 30 gallons a week which is a little over 30%, right now you are doing about 7%, which really isn't going to do much.

As for stocking, you have:
Peacocks/Haps
A.beanchi x3 - (baenschi) 5", carnivore, fairly peaceful, peacock
A.Sulphurhead x3 - Protomelas spilonotus, 10", carnivore, peaceful, hap, too large for your tank
Red Kadango x3 - Copadichromis borleyi (Kadango), 8", carnivore, peaceful, hap
S.Ahli Electric Blue x 3 - Most likely Sciaenochromis fryeri, 7", carnivore, mildly aggressive, hap


Mbuna
C.afra Red Dorsal x3 - herbivore, 3", aggressive
L.Hongi x3 - herbivore, 6", aggressive
P.Acei x3 - herbivore, 7", mildly aggressive
P.Elongatus red x3 - herbivore, 5", highly aggressive
P.crabro x3 - herbivore, 8", aggressive
P.boadzulux 3 - couldn't find any reference, even tried google, could you post a pic?
M.Lambarda x2 - I'm assuming you mean metriaclima lombardoi (kenyi) - herbivore, 6", highly aggressive

Well, first off, I'd say you are massively overstocked, which would explain the nitrite showing. I'd suggest deciding if you want to keep mbuna or haps/peacocks, while the two can be mixed, it's a little difficult. Hap/Peacocks are carnivores, while mbuna are primarily herbivores and can develop bloat if fed too many meaty foods, you can get around this by feeding a pellet for herbivores and supplimenting with spirulina enhanced brine shrimp. There's also a problem with aggression, while small, mbuna can and will easily dominate the tank, and you may lose some haps or peacocks, but at adult sizes the tables are often turned on the mbuna and they can end up snacks, or being bullied.

 

[Rodger Dodger]

his tank size and stocking are a couple of posts up

Call me blind, I completly missed that.

I'm a little concerned That you are showing nitrite Rodger. How long have you had the tank set up. You should be changing around 30 gallons a week which is a little over 30%, right now you are doing about 7%, which really isn't going to do much.

As for stocking, you have:
Peacocks/Haps
A.beanchi x3 - (baenschi) 5", carnivore, fairly peaceful, peacock
A.Sulphurhead x3 - Protomelas spilonotus, 10", carnivore, peaceful, hap, too large for your tank
Red Kadango x3 - Copadichromis borleyi (Kadango), 8", carnivore, peaceful, hap
S.Ahli Electric Blue x 3 - Most likely Sciaenochromis fryeri, 7", carnivore, mildly aggressive, hap


Mbuna
C.afra Red Dorsal x3 - herbivore, 3", aggressive
L.Hongi x3 - herbivore, 6", aggressive
P.Acei x3 - herbivore, 7", mildly aggressive
P.Elongatus red x3 - herbivore, 5", highly aggressive
P.crabro x3 - herbivore, 8", aggressive
P.boadzulux 3 - couldn't find any reference, even tried google, could you post a pic?
M.Lambarda x2 - I'm assuming you mean metriaclima lombardoi (kenyi) - herbivore, 6", highly aggressive

Well, first off, I'd say you are massively overstocked, which would explain the nitrite showing. I'd suggest deciding if you want to keep mbuna or haps/peacocks, while the two can be mixed, it's a little difficult. Hap/Peacocks are carnivores, while mbuna are primarily herbivores and can develop bloat if fed too many meaty foods, you can get around this by feeding a pellet for herbivores and supplimenting with spirulina enhanced brine shrimp. There's also a problem with aggression, while small, mbuna can and will easily dominate the tank, and you may lose some haps or peacocks, but at adult sizes the tables are often turned on the mbuna and they can end up snacks, or being bullied.

Hi,

Seems I may be in deep "do-do" here. I was advised on this selection from a breeder who knew the size of tank etc. I was told to crowd the tank to stop aggression.
Red Empress that is what I was told the Promelus boadzulu was.

I will increase the amount of water I do each week, to reduce and keep the nitrate at bay.
I have fed liquidised prawns before now, but I had a little M.Bloat set in which I managed to clear up.

I will have a word with the breeder to see if I can't take some back to him. The M. lombardoi are not showing much colour at all only grey and black really. The fish are all young, bought in January, the Red Kadango being the largest at 4".
Thank you for all your advice I will certainly take this on board and ammend the routine.

 

[dthoffsett]

Well, you do want to overstock to avoid aggression, but they do need to move around without bumping into each other.

If you like the haps/peacocks keep all of them (except for the sulpherheads, they're going to be too large), or if you like the mbuna keep them. You just need to decided between the two.

The Red Empress is actually Protomelas Taeniolatus and is a hap, mildly aggressive, 9"

http/www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1369