Breeding Angels - What To Expect?

[newfishaddict]

Does anyone have experience with breeding these types?

What can I expect?

I’ve done some reading and most of what Ive read suggests that color varieties are based on only one gene (1:2:1 ratios), I find it hard to believe that other genes are not involved?

I will add that this is this pairs 3rd time breeding, I left the first two times alone. I have heard that I should remove the eggs, is this a good idea?

This is taking place in a planted 55g with 5 angels 3 males not taking part, 15 rummynose, and one friendly rainbowshark...

 

[LisaLQ]

Tolak wrote a really good article about breeding angels, opened my eyes a bit. I had no idea you'd need 200g+ of tank space to grow on the babies enough to sell them, info which firmly put me off breeding them lol.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=96104

 

[newfishaddict]

Tolak wrote a really good article about breeding angels, opened my eyes a bit. I had no idea you'd need 200g+ of tank space to grow on the babies enough to sell them, info which firmly put me off breeding them lol.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=96104

I can raise 2 fry per gallon in my 10g and 20g and 55g.

 

[Canis-Equus]

If this is the first time for them - expect not much. In fact expect nothing, then if anything good happens it will be nice

High chances that most eggs wont be fertile - v high chances one or both will eat the eggs (if you dont remove them, or someone else will). If you do, a lot will be wiped out by fungus.

My first go at it resulted in around 400 eggs - 200 either infertile or went mouldy.

around 200 wigglers - approx 150 free swimmers - approx 100 left after their yolk sacs were gone - losses from then around 2 per day.

Fast forwards 6 months - six juveniles, one of which i really should have culled but didnt (now its too late as im a softy!).

Lots and lots and lots of work messing about with water changes, brine shrimp hatcheries, more water changes, worrying whether to keep the light on or off in the fry tank, settling on 'on' all the time as otherwise they sit on the bottom and become ill or get wonky fins.... hours peering at eggs carefully picking off dead ones so the fungus doesnt spread to the viable ones..... hours and hours spent retrieving free swimmers from the water change bucket and back into the tank....

Very rewarding - but i reckon i was quite lucky to get six fairly good (one or two VERY good so far) fish, and then i was lucky that both parents are pretty nice fish as well.

The hardest work i think is the brine shrimp - adult brine shrimp are no good, you need nauplii, freshly hatched babies, even after a few hours their nutritional value drops and baby angels will just not do well on anything else - i supplemented with liquifry but i really should have been more conscientious with the brine shrimp.

That said i dont have the facilities to raise a whole hatch anyway - mine are only just beyond sellable size now, and thats down to tank space, pure and simple.